fyi, i'm not a psarc member.
i'm just a heckler[1].
ed

1 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statler_&_Waldorf

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 06:42:44PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> For the case record, I've fixed this so that the code works with LDI
> (verified with a special kernel test module).  I've also tried to make
> sure it will support block devices equally well, though I don't have any
> block devices to test it with.
>
> The webrev for interested parties is here:
>
> http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gdamore/schism/
>
> (For a while anyway... I expect this case log will probably outlive the
> webrev, but by then there should be history in Hg for this case
> number... assuming that the case is approved as I hope it will be.)
>
> Still looking for another member to +1 it, btw.
>
>    --  Garrett
>
> Edward Pilatowicz wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 06:57:46PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>>
>>> Edward Pilatowicz wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 06:00:35PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Edward Pilatowicz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 03:09:34PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edward Pilatowicz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - instead of having the streams open entry point return ENOSTR to fall
>>>>>>>>   back to cb_ops, did you consider adding a new flag to
>>>>>>>>   ddi_create_minor_node() so that a driver could specify the desired
>>>>>>>>   access semantics of a given minor node?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't think of that... I originally considered a dev_ops flag to
>>>>>>> trigger the dynamic behavior, but decided I didn't need one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd have to contemplate whether the minor node flag would even be
>>>>>>> workable... it probably is. What would the benefit be, though?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the benefit would be that you wouldn't have to open a device to know how
>>>>>> it's going to behave.  with the current semantics, until you open the
>>>>>> device you don't know how it should be accessed.  this could be used by
>>>>>> consumers to help decide how they want to access a device.  it could
>>>>>> also be used by the framework to verify that a device is behaving as
>>>>>> expected.  (think more ASSERTs.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I see a lot of new code, and very little benefit gained. For nodes that
>>>>> export both STREAMS and character nodes, it would save an extra open()
>>>>> call. But apart from that, there is no tangible benefit.
>>>>>
>>>>> To see my sample implementation (which I've now tested with a modified
>>>>> version of my audio framework), see
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gdamore/schism/
>>>>>
>>>>> Its only 18 lines of change, and yet it *works*. KISS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> yeah.  i looked briefly at that.  i noticed you didn't make any updates
>>>> to the ldi.  i expect you'll need to.  you'll probably want to include
>>>> test cases for accessing one of your fallback device nodes via the ldi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Good point... I'll have a look see. I'd have thought ldi would go thru
>>> specfs. Does it not?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> the ldi does go through specfs, but not all streams operations go
>> through specfs (think putmsg, getmsg).
>>
>> ed
>>

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