> >> 2. Proposal
> >> -----------
> > 
> >> This is deliberately a file on the local host rather than something
> >> held in LDAP against the user or host.  There are other means for
> >> restricting authentication when pam_ldap is used, these based on the
> >> capabilities of the LDAP server and are sometimes specific to a given
> >> LDAP server.
> > 
> >     I'm confused with what point is being made.  LDAP is a name
> >     service and can serve up name service requests such as
> >     getpwent(), getnetrent(), ...  pam_ldap(5) is a PAM service
> >     module that coerces an LDAP style directory service into
> >     an account authority.
> >     But you know that, thus my confusion.
> 
> PAM is what should be used to control access to a given system, this 
> case provides a module to do that with the data stored in a local file.

        I agree with PAM account management being the correct control
        point.   This part of my comment was more about conflagration
        with pam_ldap that I wasn't sure of your point.  More below.

> >> There is also purposely no admin command, the customers requesting
> >> this functionality want a raw file as that is what they already use
> >> on Linux or on Solaris with the existing open source module.
> > 
> >     IMO, this is an excuse for not providing a properly auditable
> >     administrative interface and not a reason.
> 
> I disagree, we are giving the customers what they want and what they 
> need.  I agree it doesn't provide an easily audited admin interface but 
> the funding just isn't there to provide that capability and we really 
> can't hold of providing this simple module any longer our customers are 
> already really really annoyed it has taken us so long to do so.

        Not saying the CU be damned, but just the opposite.  IMO, as
        I believe I stated this 3.5 years ago when this started, this
        project is kludge/bandaid for lack of a proper architecture.
        I'm saddened that such an architecture doesn't seem to be
        forthcoming.

Gary..

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