Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> Hmm... 2008/760 *does* say its enabled by default.  That got approved 
> as a fast track.  Sounds like there are some issues here.
That was right before the holidays, I must not have been watching.
>
> However, are the problems with this "architectural" in scope, or are 
> they more "bugs" in scope?  (I.e. if we got the bugs resolved 
> properly, is there any good reason why the approval of 2008/760 
> shouldn't have been  granted?)
>
> My gut here says the problems are just bugs (maybe severe ones!), and 
> not a problem with system architecture as a whole.  Do I misunderstand?
What's "just a bug"?  Something not working as designed, right?  Applying
this standard, my comments stand - there's an architectural disconnect.

At the *very least*, this class of issue should have been included in the
2008/760 one-pager.

Dana

>
>    -- Garrett
>
> Dana H. Myers wrote:
>> Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>>> Dana H. Myers wrote:
>>>> Jerry Gilliam wrote:
>>>>> I am submitting the following fast-track on behalf of Sherry 
>>>>> Moore.  Minor
>>>>> release binding is requested.  The timeout is set for 02-18-2009.
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>> As much as I appreciate the convenience of fast reboot,
>>>> fast reboot is not mature enough to be made the default behavior.
>>>> See CR 6760313, for the tip of the iceberg.  Architecturally, we're
>>>> cornered in that we're dependent on cooperative ACPI BIOS
>>>> behavior.  If we un-init and re-init the ACPI namespace, we'll
>>>> run _INI methods more than once on a system that, from the
>>>> BIOS perspective, hasn't been rebooted.  I don't have a satisfactory
>>>> general answer for this.
>>>>
>>>> I believe this case certainly warrants a full discussion.
>>>
>>> I do not believe that this case (or any other) has changed the 
>>> default.  All this case does is is make an override option available 
>>> to administrators that have manually changed the default.
>>>
>>> As such, I don't think a full discussion *on this case* is warranted.
>>>
>>> If a case were brought forward intended to change the default 
>>> behavior, I would agree that a full discussion would be warranted.
>>>
>> So, I went back and looked at 2008/760, which does indeed
>> provide the ability to set the default behavior of 'reboot', though the
>> following sentence in *this* case:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     With the introduction of
>>>>>
>>>>>         2008/760 Boot configuration Service
>>>>>
>>>>>     reboot(1M) will behave as "reboot -f", which will bypass the
>>>>>     firmware.
>>
>> ... was disturbing.  Is the "stock" default behavior of 'reboot' a
>> PROM reboot? Or is it fast reboot?
>>
>> Dana
>>
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