Hi Joerg, Exactly! The default should be the Solaris userland and users can select the flavor they want by setting their path and other shell variables. It's a strength for Solaris/OpenSolaris, not some weakness. Means we're more compatible than Linux with the rest of the world:)
I still think the compromises I listed in a previous E-mail are reasonable to make everyone happy. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com E-Mail: unixconsole at yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ----- Original Message ---- From: Joerg Schilling <joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> To: unixconsole at yahoo.com; Darren.Reed at sun.com Cc: PSARC-ext at sun.com; Milan.Jurik at sun.com; johansen at sun.com; gdamore at sun.com; Alan.Coopersmith at sun.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 6:15:30 AM Subject: Re: More ksh93 builtins Darren Reed <Darren.Reed at sun.com> wrote: > I'm led to believe that OpenSolaris won't pass the testing required to > be labelled Unix (the problems start with ZFS: there are parts of it > that aren't POSIX compliant) and as far as I know, nobody is interested > in doing so. This has been known for quite some time. It is looking more > and more like Solaris 10 will be the last "UNIX" from Oracle. So that > "battle" has already been lost. Hi Darren, for passing the POSIX compliance test, the system just needs to behave POSIXly correct after you called: PATH=`getconf PATH` sh > Darren > > On 23/03/10 09:24 PM, Octave Orgeron wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I agree Jason. And I still want to voice the need for the new OGB to have a > > community conference to define the standards for OpenSolaris. Things like > > this should be decided in the open as a community. I'd even like to see a > > real standard created that will help defuse these issues and provide > > consistency. Last time I checked, Solaris is UNIX no Linux. The same should > > be true for OpenSolaris. GNU should be nothing more than another userland > > flavor under /usr/gnu with g* sym-links in /usr/bin. The default userland > > tools should be POSIX and Open Group Single Unix Specification compliant. > > Enhancing our userland tools is the way to go, not taking the short-cut to > > GNU and selling out. I would like to see the Solaris userland retained and well maintained. There are contributions from the community and it would be nice if these contributions could find their way into OpenSolaris. I would like to see the AST tools as one _additional_ flavor on OpenSolaris. This may make it necessary to switch off some ksh93 builtins in case that the user selected the Solaris userland flavor. I also like to see the GNU tools as _additive_ option for users. And there also seems to be a demand from the uers to have the Schily tools delivered by default with OpenSolaris.
