On 4/2/10 2:12 PM, James Carlson wrote:
Peter Dennis wrote:
     This FastTrack will EOF the Sip Express Router (SER) and its web based
     interface -- SERWeb -- from Solaris Next and obsolete SER and SERWeb in
     Solaris 10.

     On November 4th 2008 a new SIP Router project was announced and joined
     by SER developers, [1].  This also means that SER itself is no longer
     developed in favour of the SIP Router, [2].

I think this project is incomplete.

Removal without replacement doesn't seem like the right response to
having the upstream open source project merely shutting down.  Instead,
I'd expect that we'd at most mark Obsolete in S10, and then remove in
the current release when the new, replacement project is ready, and
(perhaps) there's some sort of transition story that can be told.

Well, the question is if any replacement is needed. I asked marketing about their opinion and they do not have a problem with removing SER without a replacement. There is no one in development working on SER and bringing a new SIP router to Solaris represents a significant effort (especially the required testing). So, without a real business justification why to have such a product in Solaris I would like to get it removed. I do not think there is a need to have a dead product in Solaris. Certainly, if there exist real business reasons why SER should be part of Solaris Next I would like to learn about these.

We've got a huge number of open source bits in OpenSolaris that have
either a long-dead upstream or no real maintainer to speak of.  And
there are others that were considered "dead" for years only to come back
to life later.  Why is this one special?

I do not think that SER is special but on the other side I do not see any reason why to keep SER (and perhaps the other number of huge of dead open source bits) in Solaris Next (especially "as part of the product"). Perhaps having such bits provided just "for Solaris", e.g., in /contrib makes more sense.

Why does removal from OpenSolaris necessarily follow an announcement
like that?

Because of the reasons above -- so far I am not aware of any reasons why to have a SIP router-like product part of Solaris Next.

Lukas
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