Darren J Moffat wrote:
> On 21/05/2010 16:19, James Carlson wrote:
>> The second is the standards group branding issue.  The value 9 is baked
>> into the UNIX98 and UNIX03 reference materials, so changing it (at least
>> inside those conforming environments) means either re-doing the branding
>> or ceasing to be "UNIX" in that sense.  Obviously not an architectural
>> issue, but something non-trivial that should be noted.
> 
> My understanding is that this is the distinction between
> _POSIX_LOGIN_NAME_MAX which this case explicitly stated stays a 9, and
> LOGIN_NAME_MAX which is only required to be a minimum of
> _POSIX_LOGIN_NAME_MAX.
> 
> The #define I'm changing in <limits.h> is neither of those it is
> LOGNAME_MAX.  The #define in <limits.h> for _POSIX_LOGIN_NAME_MAX stays
> at 9.

LOGNAME_MAX is documented as a public committed interface in
limits.h(3HEAD).  How do you deal with that?

> I could be convinced to just take LOGNAME_MAX out of scope and make it
> Consolidation Private - or maybe to remove it completely.  This I
> believe is Bill's preference.

Yes.

>> I was hoping to convince you that, although there's nothing wrong with
>> the proposal, and that it's technically simple to accomplish, the nature
>> of it places it outside the bounds of a traditional fast-track, and that
>> allowing "mission creep" on fast-tracks is a bad thing overall for
>> OpenSolaris.
> 
> What you aren't convincing me of is what value an ARC opinion will have
> in this particular case.
> 
> I see no value in an ARC opinion here since there has been no suggested
> Advice to any other party.

I don't think any of us commenting on this case believe there's a need
for any specific advice (perhaps on branding; I'm not sure), but I can
say that for *me* the issues are (1) it's outside the bounds of the
fast-track definition and (2) I very much want to see the ARC members
explicitly vote to endorse these changes.

I'm certainly not saying "don't do it."  In fact, I want to see it
happen.  Nor am I trying to slow it down.  I just want it done _right_.

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James Carlson         42.703N 71.076W         <[email protected]>
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