Correction:

On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 17:09 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote:
> Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> > Does the HAL run independent of the desktop environment?  I've not 
> > looked at it, but somehow I was under the impression that the HAL was a 
> > gnome-ish thing that got started with the rest of the desktop startup.
> 
> YES.
> 
> HAL != GNOME
> 
> HAL !=> any window system at all.
> 
> Likewise
> 
> DBUS != GNOME
> 
> DBUS !=> any window system at all.
> 
> Whats more HAL and DBUS are both delivered from ONNV not any desktop layer.

Actually, D-Bus _is_ delivered by JDS.  D-Bus has a dependency on glib,
(for dbus-glib, which is not used by HAL).  glib is also != GNOME (not
even GUI), but it is closely related, and is shipped in
SUNWgnome-base-libs.

Laca

> They were added by the Tamarack project:
> 
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/tamarack/hal_and_dbus.txt
> 
> The Tamarack project even provided a removable media manager using 
> HAL/DBUS that doesn't require any desktop system.
> 
> > If so, then it is less useful as a generic API for CLI access, IMO.
> 
> I wouldn't have suggested it if it depended on any GUI system :-)
> 

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