Hey,
> http://www.freedesktop.org/
>
> They are trying to define and implement a common infrastructure for
> UNIX desktops (DBUS and HAL are just some of them, there's an entire
> list there).
>
> How about we start looking at this, because both GNOME and KDE4 will
> implement this architecture (or so it is planned).
Absolutely - couldn't agree more. From a JDS point of view, we're very
aware of the discussions going on, although we may not have been the
most active or vocal over the last couple of months.
> Last time i built DBUS (about 9 months ago or so), it sort of worked,
> emphasis on "sort of". AFACS, HAL is in a pretty incipient stage, and,
> to my knowledge, there's been very little (if any) Solaris work done.
> there's a big empty spot there.
We've got a team going inside Sun to start getting a list of the main
differences in Linux, that stand in the way of having a rocking desktop
on Solaris - we've already started some work on porting HAL to Solaris
and there are a couple of people involved.
DBUS is in the stage where it's starting to freeze some of its API -
there's been a lot of change there. Hopefully it'll start settling down
over the next couple of months to look at this more closely.
> So, i was thinking, maybe DBUS and HAL would be two good places to
> start longer-term work (for KDE4), while we iron out our community
> agreement that we won't be building 12 different versions of Python
> ever again. :-P
Absolutely - that sounds ideal. I guess we probably need to divide
things up between a developer and distribution - while DBUS and HAL are
very important to us [JDS/GNOME], we're not at the stage where we need
to worry about them from a distribution point of view. We need to work
closely with freedesktop.org to make sure they work on Solaris first and
foremost.
However, I do think we can make real progress on the distribution front
in parallel ;)
> Third suggestions: maybe we should move the KDE specific discussions
> to the kde-solaris list (or maybe just make up our own private mailing
> lists and communicate that way, or maybe some other way). i feel a
> little uncomfortable subjecting everyone on the os-discuss list to
> items which are rather specific (and not necessarily interesting to
> everyone).
So this is interesting too. I've just got confirmation from Derek that
he's setup a desktop community on OpenSolaris.org - obviously it's just
the bare bones at the moment, so we need to put a bit of work into
getting it ready before we go live.
My idea is that we could have the OpenSolaris.org desktop community as
an umbrella for other things -
Desktop
- GNOME
- KDE
- Mozilla
- OpenOffice
- ....
So we probably need to think what infrastructure we can share, and what
it makes sense to split out. For example, I think there's a huge amount
of value in having a [EMAIL PROTECTED], but may make sense
to have jds/gnome-discuss and kde-discuss. Perhaps we share our Blog
space, and subdivide the web site as appropriate -
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/gnome
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/kde
.....
Thoughts?
Glynn
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