>  Can we all at least agree on two things right now. 
>  
>  #1  if we work together and commit changes/ports/updates/security fixes to
> a single repository it will help out everyone.

Agreed.

>  #2 That we will work together to make #1 happen. 

Agreed.  

>  If we can just just agree on these two things, we can then create a
> community and begin a dialog about things that need to change, right now,
> can we just agree to talk?  I'm afraid if this process gets tied up in
> technical talk at this stage in the process, nothing will happen. And in a
> few years nothing will happen, and there will still the same problems, of
> each software group will still be an island and we will be no better off
> than Linux, or perhaps they will work together.... And we Will have an even
> greater battle to fight. 

Well said.

Dennis Clarke
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