On 7/28/05, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I fail to see where you disgree with Roy's statement, unless your definition of "OpenSolaris"
is different Roy's in this context.
On 7/28/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then they aren't in OpenSolaris. Not being in our products
> doesn't mean they can't be downloaded from somewhere else or
> obtained as part of a proprietary distribution.
I don't think that's a very practical view. There is a *lot* of
hardware out there that cannot be used without some binary component.
Not just wifi, but many others. Quite frankly, it should be more about
the user and less about ivory tower academic principles. Taking the
attitude of "open source only or the highway" sounds very noble, but
it doesn't accomplish much. Many companies *will never* provide the
necessary information to develop drivers for their hardware, whether
because of legal obligations to others, *government restrictions*, or
otherwise.
I think many people are looking at the OpenSolaris project as one that
is willing to support the user instead of taking the rather unhelpful
attitude of "no binary drivers" that other operating system projects
take. When it comes down to it, the user doesn't give a flying pig
about whether a driver is binary only or not. They just want their
hardware to work, and if binary only components is the only choice
then it's a reasonable thing to accept to many of us. Those who don't
like it can just not use that hardware, the rest of us would like our
hardware to work out of the box :)
I fail to see where you disgree with Roy's statement, unless your definition of "OpenSolaris"
is different Roy's in this context.
On 7/28/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then they aren't in OpenSolaris. Not being in our products
> doesn't mean they can't be downloaded from somewhere else or
> obtained as part of a proprietary distribution.
Since any close source binary can be put into any OpenSolaris-based _distribution_
(up to the owner to decide), such as Solaris, what exactly is not "practical"?
We simply can't claim the binary is _ours_ (the OpenSolaris community),
i.e. belongs to the OpenSolaris (in its strict meaning), even if it's Sun's.
That doesn't mean we cannot discuss it, test its integration with OpenSolaris, I suppose.
Tao
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