Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Let me add another statement....
>
> You cannot leave it, can you ?

Aha you are again being personal?


> > He has two basic approaches:
> > 
> > -   Telling people that you are not allowed to run GPLd software
> >     on top of non-GPL operating systems or to ship both together
> >     on a single medium.
>
> You cannot link GPLed software with GPL-incompatible system libraries, if you
> distribute said software together with the system libraries. This has been
> known for age, and Sun used to distribute gcc on a separate CD back then.

You continue to claim things that contradict all facts that have been
discussed during the past 10+ years.

... and you ignore the mail from Casper.

The GPL gives you the permission to link against libraries that are part of
the OS. Why should something that was no problem while Solaris was closed
source become a problem now it is CDDL?


> Maybe you can argue that shipping the GPLed executable and the incompatible
> system library on the same CD media is not the same as this "unless that
> component itself accompanies the executable", but i think you would have a
> hard time a judge of it, but then no wonder you are so attached to the
> choice-of-venue clause :)

See Caspers mail before... If you were true, Debian would call the GPL non-free.


> Nope, since the System libraries of all linux systems are themselves
> GPL-compatible (this would be the GNU libc here), so there is no problem.

As this was no problen for the Closed Source Solaris, it is no problem for
the OS Solaris.


> > -   Telling people that the CDDL is not accepted as true OSS license.
> > 
> >     In fact, the CDDL is accepted by both: OSI and Debian.
>
> You have already claimed that many times, that Debian has accepted the CDDL as
> DFSG free. I pointed out URLs of emails containing discussion over the
> choice-of-venue clause, and even though many participated (i counted at least
> 10 quickly in that thread i posted), you say this is the the objections are
> from a single poster on debian-legal. But i asked you already, do you have a
> reference to the fact that Debian did recognize the CDDL as free ? You failed
> to give such thing here.

You did not point out anything of relevence since the mails you name contain 
only the opinion of a single person and the fact that star (being the first 
complete project published under the CDDL) is in the list of "Debian accepted 
free 
software"  proves that the Debian project indeed accepts the CDDL.

I am in hope that you stop sending new mail until you have new and
provable arguments...



Jörg

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