On Tuesday 11 October 2005 02:05 pm, S Destika wrote: > [b][u][i]Solaris has always been good under load, something Linux falls > with typically. It really wasn't until recentely that Linux could handle 2 > CPUs, and the only reason it can *marginally* utilize 2 CPUs is due to > Moore's Law, IMO. Running Linux on SMP systems is like running a Yugo on > the autobaun. Ok, maybe a Yugo is not a good analogy...maybe it's like a > Ford Probe with a bad cylinder.[/i][/u][/b] > > I was specifically addressing what you said in an earlier post. It took me > some real data and examples to get people to a point where they now agree > that Linux isn't nearly as bad as what was claimed above, in fact it > competes head to head with Solaris today. Sometimes it is lagging, > sometimes it's leading. And believe me, if someone would have said > something equally false about Solaris without numbers, proofs - I would > have gone to the same length to prove how it's not true.
And I backed it up and pointed out that in a real world environment (VA Linux Systems), the servers were rolling over with SMP. I wasn't running those servers, but there were qualified folks running them. Didn't happen all the time, and some folks don't mind rebooting their servers for a trap dump occasinally. Ok, your claim that Linux has gotten better is well taken. Let's move on. > And when I made a statement I always backed it up with numbers (SPEC, > Solaris bug database for e.g.). I claimed FUD when people made false > statements without proving them. And how would real world environemnts be FUD? You made claims that David Schanen was spreading FUD several times. He has backed it up with examples of why he has made those claims, in each case with a real world situation. Stefan Teleman was presented with a similar response, an engineer I have known for a long, long time and he knows what he's doing, in large environments that require high demands on systems in real time. > Does Sun have anything to learn? Yes, learn to co-exist and live well with > other OSS solutions. Don't start with a mindless aim of forcing Solaris on > people at any and every cost and opportunity. OSS forums are not marketing > commercials they do on TV where you advertise Pepsi against Coke - > sometimes with help of great models and other times with purely > non-provable claims. Let people drink what they like and what they believe > suits them. This message posted from opensolaris.org I can't speak for all of Sun, but I'm trying to do just that. I find this to be completely 180 degrees against what I have seen in most all Linux forums, however, where the developers not only push their bias on others, but become very hostile. But since I feel Sun is better than that, I hope to improve as I hope others will in the community. This is not only Sun engineers though, it's a community, and just like any other community needs to stand on it's own. I understand your point above, and I'm working to strive better in the community myself. Do you have something else to point out? (without namecalling, or false accusations) -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
