On 11/17/05, Scott N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I really think that opensolaris should remain a core that Sun uses to gather
> enhancements from some great minds in the open source community for its 
> Solaris
> flagship rather than have opensolaris available to bastardize it with 
> countless 'distro's to fit
> what others have in mind of what OpenSolaris should be. And then taking their 
> ball with
> them if the opensolaris community doesn't like it.
>
> This is what happened to, and continues to happen, with Linux and this is the 
> reason I
> eventually came to like the bsd's so much better. The feeling of coherentsy 
> in the BSD's
> fit more my philosophy and felt so much more better than the ridiculous mess 
> of Linux.
> Sun opening up and making Solaris Free (source) was not for it to be 'forked' 
> into distro
> hell but rather to gather help, Q/A and some momentum. With that, we all get 
> the most
> advanced OS for free (price) now.

Some of this is going to happen regardless, mostly because of the
clash of egos.  Whether GNU/Linux or the BSD OS's are more fragmented
is questionable--there is just one Linux kernel source, but is Free,
Open, and NetBSD all have their own sources.
If you think about it, most of the compability problems in the GNU
world are not due to fragmentation anyway, but rathter stuff like the
kernel (2.4  vs 2.6) and glibc, and large projects like GNOME with
many dependencies that will change their abi over time.

> After my initial trial with Nexenta and then finding that X was installed in 
> non-stardard
> Solaris location, I have now made an effort to only support TRUE Solaris-like 
> 'distro's' like
> Schillix or even better may just stick with Solaris Express for my needs (Why 
> hasn't
> there been a 'distro' where I can install SE without the long 4-cd install 
> process). If I am
> going to use and support "Solaris", I want to be learning and using SOLARIS. 
> Not some
> distro that goes off in its own direction (namely the dumb Linux direction) 
> and then just
> adds the SunOS kernel. This is unnessary, Just continue to use
> Linux/Debian/Ubuntu/GNU then if it is SO good! All this wasted effort could 
> be put to
> better use like making Blastwave better or something.

So long as Sun remains in business you will continue to have be able
to use their version of Solaris, and I suspect they will continue to
implent standards like the single unix specification, etc.  Solaris
Express is also their thing, and changing it will have to be something
they do.  Not everything in there is re-distributable, so we cannot
just repackage in some other way.  I wouldn't make too many judgments
about Nexenta at this point, since that was a pre-alpha, which may or
may not reflect the first release.  Whether there is one OpenSolaris
distribution or 5, people are still going to end up pooling efforts on
most of the coding.  The differences between various Linux
distributions and between the BSD's are mostly superficial, and they
end up sharing lots of code anyway.

Dave
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