>Perhaps what he meant to say was that SVr4 comes in part from BSD.  As
>I recall the order events:

You forgot the first event: which is that Unix escaped from
Bell Labs and is enhanced elsewhere, including Berkeley;
BSD did include AT&T materials 

>-People at Berkeley write BSD, some of these people go work for Sun.

>-AT&T and Sun take the parts of Unix, BSD, and some new stuff to
>create a new Unix, which eventually becomes Unix SVr4 and Solaris.

Much of what became SVR4 came from Sun, not BSD.

>-Post lawsuit with AT&T, 4.4 BSD Lite is created, which in turn is th=
>e basis for Free, Net and OpenBSD.
>-AT&T anti-trust.  Open Group is created as the holder of the Unix
>`standard' but not the source code, and POSIX and UNIX standards as we
>know them today are based on for the most part on SVr4.
>
>So chronologically I guess SVr4 pre-dates 4.4 BSD, so maybe that's th=
>e
>source of confusion.  Clearly a lot of ideas happened in BSD first and
>made there way into the current incarnation of Solaris.

"Clearly"?  If you discount the inventions done for SunOS at Sun, I don't
think there's that much to show: sockets, reliable signal handling,
r* commands.

I think it's safer to say that there's common ancestry and that the
torch of development passed from AT&T to BSD to Sun (and that's where
it still is, if you ask me :-)

Casper
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