On 1/9/06, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >On 1/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> There are many ways format, but from Sun's perspective none include
> > >> replacing ksh with ksh93.
> > >
> > >Is this the OFFICIAL position of Sun Microsystems?
> >
> > Why do you think I have an "official" position of any kind?
>
> It might be worth noting that, as an inanimate object, Sun can't have
> positions, official or otherwise.
>
> Suggesting that it does gets, I believe, uncomfortably close to
> suggesting that Sun has some sort of "veto rights" over Open Solaris.
> I don't think that is or should be the case.
>
> Various people, though, may have positions. I agree with Casper that
> the best way forward is to develop a transition that breaks nothing
> that anyone would ever notice. At least with my ARC hat on, I'd be
> more than willing to listen to arguments that one or another bit of
> breakage is "not important" compared with getting a more modern shell.
Did you get Ireks point that Solaris is FAR behind other operating systems?
One example from our university - a real world problem we have experienced:
Think about a university which wants to use /usr/bin/ksh as uniform
login shell between various systems like Solaris, Linux, AIX - this
has become a horrible pain as the Solaris version of ksh is pretty
much incompatible to the korn shell versions of the other Unix OSes
(Solaris uses hacked ksh88, all others use ksh93). If you want to
support Solaris you have to restrict yourself to a subset of korn
shell functionality which is common between versions - which is nearly
as painful as working with the old bourne shell..
> But someone needs to do the work of figuring out what that breakage
> is, whom it would affect, how, and documenting all of that as a
> proposed project.
James... several YEARS ago someone from our university
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) already created a quite
painless ksh88-to-ksh93 migration plan (including a detailed list of
issues which need to be solved) for Solaris and send the proposal to
Sun, however Sun did not had any interest in such a work.
Felix
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