On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:09:38PM +0000, Peter Tribble wrote:

> I've been following this discussion, and it seems to me that one problem
> we have is that the current communities are focussed around subject
> areas,
> and we don't differentiate by audience. So how do we address the needs
> of
> different audiences without creating new communities? Is it just a case
> of splitting the mailing lists up?

Yes, exactly.  The focus on subject areas is intentional; that brings
together the engineers designing and implementing a family of related
features (in many projects) with the developers who extend or build on
top of them, the users or administrators who will ultimately consume
them, the documentation teams explaining how they work, and a wide
variety of other people generally interested in those broadly related
features/projects.  I've seen several complaints here that there "are
no really technical mailing lists."  The way to fix that, as you
suggest, is simply to create new mailing lists.  Of course, in most
cases the "really technical stuff" actually belongs at the project
level, where design and implementation take place.  But there's no
reason that communities shouldn't foster deeply technical discussion
as well, especially when the subject isn't specific to a particular
project.

In short, the communities aren't some ethereal bodies whose existence
and function have been decreed by Sun.  They're *your* organisations,
to serve the purposes *you*, as members, find important.  If you think
a particular community isn't serving a segment of its membership very
well, you're welcome to work with its leaders to change that.  Forming
a new community is almost never the right answer.

The community life cycle, and how communities choose leaders, what
those leaders are expected to do, and what happens when those leaders
are unresponsive to the needs and desires of their communities are
important topics for discussion in the context of the Constitution.
Your input would be welcome on cab-discuss.

-- 
Keith M Wesolowski              "Sir, we're surrounded!" 
Solaris Kernel Team             "Excellent; we can attack in any direction!" 
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