>Hi everybody,

>bad images have the tendency to keep hanging around long after they
>have become invalid. Solaris once was really slow in many areas, but
>has dramatically improved in the past years. But its image o f being
>slow is still present in the head of many people. Most of these people
>might be willing to revalidate their opinion if one tells them that
>their image has become obsolete. But these revalidation efforts will
>be stopped immediately, if the old impression seems to come up again.

The funny thing is that the term "Slowaris" was coined by Sun users
when Solaris was first released; it contrasted to SunOS 4.x which
was faster in a number of things, and certainly more lightweight,
especially when running Suntools and not X windows.

Linux users really have no right to use that term :-)

>Concerning Solaris I have been thinking about what the major issues
>might be that keep up Solaris'
>image of being slow. If one evaluates Solaris in general (not for a
>very specific purpose), one won't start with top features like
>live-upgrade, dtrace, and so on. Additionally, one won't setup as
>ystem with many processors and demanding applications. So IMO the very
>first steps someone makes ar e very important, because the first
>impressions must be very _convincing_, to assure people that a further
>investigation is worth the effort.

That is important and that why whenever people find Solaris measurably
slower than any of the competition, we think it's a bug (except in
cases where standards complaince is an issue)

>So I thought about in what parts of Solaris the Slowaris image is
>still valid. Especially, where does the system give a bad impression
>that might be valid, but is not applicable to Solaris in gener al. I
>have come up with the following points:

>- default DVD based install process (slow)
>- default patch process (very slow, see my comment in
>the performance discussion)

Yes.  Install is very bad; we know that we need to fix that.

>- USB performance (very slow, I raised an RFE some time ago)

I see no issue there; what is the RFE?

>- SMC (slow and very limited), webmin disabled by default
>- default setup (PATH, shell, missing alternative security
>profiles)
>- missing option to setup a sample user during install

>Don't get me wrong: ZFS, DTrace, and the like are really great, but in
>my experience many people w on't give Solaris a try long enough to get
>to these sweet spots, and that's sad.

There is a project which tries to address a number of those first
user experiences; while install slowness isn't directly a part of that
project, it still rates high.

Casper
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