Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Are you sure that this is true?
> >
> > Although the *BSD mainteiners are doing their job much better than
> > the maintainers of Linux based distributions (e.g. Debian), they still
> > apply patches that have negative impact on the overall quality of the code.
> >
> > Jörg
>
> And the alternative is massively out of date software from blastwave, broken 
> software from sunfreeware, crap spread from one end of the hard drive to 
> another with the various locations things are installed on Solaris, to the 
> out of date desktop shipping with Solaris currently - and the 'oh so 
> fabulously easy' to install GNOME off opensolaris that demands the individual 
> to throw away stability and embrace the rickety thing that is OpenSolaris.

Let us look at Debian to make it easier to understand the problem:

Debian is much less up-to date that Blastwave and in addition add tons of 
useless patches that would make me avoid Debian packages and rather compile 
myself.

The NetBSD packages are as outdated ad Blastwave and they don't seem to get 
tested by the NetBSD maintainers on Solaris. 

At least, those package maintainers that come from other platforms do
not understand the Solaris philosohy and create packages in a way that is 
centric to their "home" OS.

> Sorry, going by what is actually out there, it isn't as though a BSD enspired 
> ports system could make the situation any worse than it is now.

Why do you believe it could make the situation better than now?

> Give me a nicely integrated KDE/Xorg experience like I'm having now with my 
> FreeBSD/KDE 3.5.2/Xorg 6.9, I'll happy locate the hole I crawled out of, and 
> migrate back to that location.

I don't like the blown up KDE that is MS-WIN centric.

In order to judge about packet systems, I look at the packet quality and 
availability of my main tools:

cdrtools, star, smake, ved, sfind

All package systems that are not using Solaris as their "home" fail this test.


It may help to give you an additional hint:

A year ago, "sed" was not free on Solaris and it was unclear whether it ever 
will be. For this reason I was forced to check other possibilities. Looking at 
NetBSD's sed did result in a quality desaster from only looking at the source.
So I decided to use the FreeBSD source and port it myself. But unfortunately, 
there is no portable package system that is FreeBSD based.

Jörg

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