Hi David,

Adding to Matt's feedback...

We hear you loud and clear.

#1 - In addition to supporting sparse root zones in Java ES 5 (scheduled for 
release in Q4 this calendar year), we are preparing to deliver support for what 
we call "multi install and management" support in the next major release after 
Java ES 5.  Multi-install support enables users to deploy multiple, wholly 
independent Java ES stacks on the same system (even in the same zone) with the 
ability to manage updates/patches to each stack on separate schedules.  We 
expect multi-install support to further simplify the use of the same or 
different versions of Java ES stacks across both the global and non-global 
zones by avoiding overlap between the stacks and between the stacks and the OS. 
For example, a particular Java ES stack may contain a version of Java SE (JDK) 
that is different than that which is used by the OS or by other Java ES stacks 
on the same system.  It is a complex affair to try to reuse the same copy of 
rapidly evolving shared components across different copies of the Java ES stack 
and across those Java ES stacks and the OS.

#2 - With Java ES 5, patches to Java ES on Solaris will begin to be made 
visible through the Sun Update Connection tools (including smpatch).  The 
planned roll out of Update Connection has been to address Solaris the OS 
followed by Java ES.

One reason why there are different types of patches for Java ES components is 
that Java ES supports multiple operating systems, but uses the same patch 
delivery infrastructure and patch identification scheme to wrap patches for 
Java ES on multiple operating systems.  For example, the patches for Java ES on 
Red Hat are zip files that contain complete RPMs.

Another reason for the different types of patches is that even for Java ES on 
Solaris, there are some legacy distributions of Java ES components made 
available in non-package form to support multi-install and non-root user 
install features.  These parallel distros of non-package based distros will go 
away as support for multi-install and non-root user install is realized in the 
mainstream package-based distros of Java ES. 

Thanks again for your feedback.

Chris Kampmeier
Java ES CTO
 
 
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