On May 31, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
>
>
> Xorg 6.9 performs nicely on my FreeBSD box, besides the DRI issue
> (which hopefully get corrected), I expect a delay due to the nature
> of this new, more modular approach.
>
Same for me.
>
> We already ship 6.9.0 which was released at the end of December,
> and is the
> same source code as 7.0, only with the old build system still - the
> change
> between that and 7.1 is not that major. What are you looking for
> that you
> don't already have?
>
>
> As a desktop, the lag is terrible, I'm using a Radeon X300/550
> sitting on a PCIe; all lovely-jubbly - running FreeBSD, my desktop
> with KDE is 'teh snappy' (to coin a Mac phrase), but when it comes
> to using the default Xorg with Solaris 10 01/06 (which is 6.8.2 ),
> coupled with the drivers provided, there is terrible lag,
> especially when it comes to responsiveness under a heavy load.
>
Unfortunately, I absolutely have to agree here. With a dualcore cpu,
multiple gigs of ram, and a 7900GT (which Nvidia assured me was
supported with their binary driver), Solaris was *unusable* for me as
a desktop due to this "lag" being described. It's almost like a
stuttering. I saw it on network activity and hd activity *i think*.
It was so terrible, I didn't even bother trying to diagnose it. I'm
willing to give it another shot if somebody wants to help me figure
out what the issue is. It's occured on lots of different hardware for
me though, everything from old athlon xp systems to this current
beast. All with Nvidia video cards, all using the binary nvidia
driver. Oh, and intel 1000g ethernet cards. It's the *only* thing
keeping me from deploying Solaris on my desktop as my primary
development/administration platform. Help me!
The funny part, when running CDE; there doesn't seem to be that issue to the same extent as it is with GNOME running. I thought that maybe upgrading to Xorg 7.1 would correct the issue, but it seems to be more to do with how Solaris schedules its tasks.
> The problem is made worse when compiling things on Solaris - the
> paths aren't setup, things break when compiling, its a nightmare
> just trying to get KDE working - which is the original reason why I
> was compiling Xorg 7.1 on Solaris 10; to have a nice snappy server,
> KDE desktop.
>
The paths are something already acknowledged, I brought that up a
week back or so. It's really not hard to fix, it's just a 30 second
PITA when you first install. If you were trying to install/get studio
11 working in a full root zone, I could understand your frustration
(you have to manually link a java directory) but even then it's not
that bad, again a 30 second fix. It sounds like to me you just don't
have the patience to learn a different OS, and you expect Solaris to
be as user-friendly as the current crop of desktop OSs. It's not,
nobody is going to make-believe it is, either. It's getting there
though, just perhaps not quickly enough for your tastes. Enjoy FreeBSD.
Its even worse; I tried downloading and installing the Studio 11 patches using the Solaris update tool, like a good boy - well, the installation failed; I cruised over to /var/sadm/spool and found that the downloaded files were being added, but failed because the individual who wrote the Solaris Update tool, failed to include the -G to allow a global installation of the patch; and hence, I had to manually add the patches; something that shouldn't happen had there been some testing in that area.
As for the paths; why aren't they setup correctly in root? if one tries to compile something in user, then drop down into root to go make install, why aren't all the necessary directories setup by default? I can handle having to install and use GCC; thats all good, but when paths aren't setup correctly; it is pretty painful.
As for FreeBSD; I might give Solaris Express (the next build) a try; I don't want bleeding edge, but I would like to be able to go, "you know, I really like that application; I'll download it, and compile it" and it actually compiles without needing to jump through 100 flaming hoops.
I'd be quite happy to make packages, upload them etc. etc. if it were made alot easier to compile software for Solaris, but due to the above issues, I can't.
As FreeBSD right now, the only thing I dislike is the slow C++ compiling, thanks to GCC, then again, I play Mr Conservative using -Os -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe, which, although not heavily optimised to the hilt, still provides a pretty damn good desktop experience. Xorg + KDE 3.5.2 + Amarok + Koffice = great desktop.
Matty
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