Sorry to top post, but here goes: you'll find that seemingly EVERYTHING on 
lxer.com is no better than your observations of this particular topic. They are 
no better than extreme right/left publications on politics, they just cover 
linux/everything that is not linux, and it's *ALWAYS* the same outcome to them. 
I wouldn't even mind it if they'd at least substanciate what they preach, they 
never do.

lxer.com is on my url blacklist. :)

David

----- Original Message -----
From: Nils Nieuwejaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 8:27 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun lost one of it's biggest and oldest x86 
customer

> On Thu 06/01/06 at 09:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > "Solaris is a better Linux than Linux" ?Marc Andreessen
> > 
> > You know what...that ticked me off. I love Sun but such viral 
> marketing 
> > campaigns?
> > 
> > Anyways, here is a response on that topic 
> > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/55094/index.html
> 
> I rarely follow this sort of link, since I inevitably end up 
> rolling my
> eyes and sighing a lot.  I'm not sure why I did this time, but I 
> found that
> this response:
> 
>       - takes issue with the claim that ZFS is superior to Linux
>          filesystems.  He lists 4 Linux filesystems, but doesn't 
> explain          how any of them come close to matching ZFS.
> 
>       - Admits that Linux doesn't have containers, but makes the silly
>          suggestion that UML is more or less the same.
> 
>       - Claims that Linux is somehow "more free" than Solaris because it
>          uses the GPL instead of CDDL, without offering any 
> explanation of
>          why GPL is preferable.  Both are approved Open Source 
> licenses.
>       - Says something about proprietary software and interoperability.
>          I can't figure out what he is trying to say, or what he is
>          responding to, but he certainly doesn't offer any 
> evidence (even
>          anecdotal) that Linux is more interoperable than Solaris.
> 
>       - Quotes a reader who has a friend who "has been a Senior Engineer
>          at Sun for well over a decade" and claims that we had 
> "completely          rewritten the kernel" for Solaris 10.  Anybody 
> who has even
>          glanced at the source available on opensolaris.org would 
> know          that one or more of these people are simply making 
> stuff up.
> 
>       - Has some fair, if typically overstated and blustery, criticism of
>          our installer, which tails off with a complaint about 
> CDE.  Since
>          we have been shipping Gnome for years now, this last bit 
> seems a
>          little silly.
> 
>       - And my favorite: "[Since 2004...] Linux has matched Solaris
>          almost feature for feature."  So Linux now has the 
> functionality          offered by zones, SRM, Predictive Self 
> Healing, SMF, ZFS, and (of
>          course) DTrace?  C'mon.  This doesn't even pass the laugh 
> test.
> These "responses" would be much more effective if the authors would 
> juststick to those areas in which Linux actually is superior - 
> because they
> certainly exist.  Comparing Ubuntu's installer to ours makes that
> blindingly obvious.  Hardware support is generally another area 
> where they
> win - although I can use wifi on my Ferrari under Solaris, but not 
> Linux.
> Instead, they seem to spend most of their time and energy vigorously
> handwaving away the areas in which we have the advantage.  Since this
> inevitably requires listing all the cool stuff available in 
> Solaris, they
> are really making our case for us.
> 
> Nils
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