Alan DuBoff writes: > On Thursday 01 June 2006 11:20 am, James Carlson wrote: > > If they wanted a restaurant instead of a grocery store, they should > > have looked up "restaurants" instead. 'Solaris Express' is one such > > restaurant. 'BeleniX' is another. 'SchilliX' a third. And so on. > > But how can you point out that JDS, X, or any other OSS is a part of > OpenSolaris? This makes no sense to me.
Why's that? Merely because the source code itself has open source roots? Must all accumulations of open source software be constrained to live on some site other than opensolaris.org? Why? I don't see how having an accumulation of source code that's known to work on a particular operating system (and some of which that might have needed to be tweaked to do so) is itself a bad thing. In fact, I think it's helpful for those who are building distributions. Sure, it'd be better still to make these collections smaller by just keeping diffs and compilation scripts -- and referring back to some other common repository for the rest -- but that seems to me to be an implementation and code management detail. > Big deal, Sun uses them in the entree at thier resturaunt, seems these were > being pointed out as being a part of OpenSolaris. Sure. And they are. They're also open source projects in themselves. I don't see a conflict here. David J. Orman writes: > As a precursor, I apologize for the subject change, but that old > subject was way off base. No apology needed; it should have been changed a while ago. > > But how can you point out that JDS, X, or any other OSS is a part > > of > > OpenSolaris? This makes no sense to me. > > I guess that's where I'm getting confused. The way things have been > discussed here, OSOL *is* SX. Untrue. Solaris Express is one distribution of Open Solaris. It's Sun's distribution. There are several other distributions of Open Solaris. Using the food metaphor, Open Solaris is the grocery store. There are all sorts of items (technically "foodstuff") there that you might want to use to create a meal. Your restaurant could be a drive-through window or a gourmet feast. The grocery store neither knows nor cares much about how you decide to put your meals together. > I thought more and more of the stuff that isn't released as source > from SX was being opened as time progressed, and eventually all of SX > (that was legally possible) would be OSOL. Indeed. That's the goal. > In other words, OSOL *would* be SX, in other words - would include > all these goodies. No, still not true. Open Solaris is the raw source repository and the bug tracking and development projects that go with it. Sun uses it to build Solaris Express. You can use it to do something similar. But even if you build *exactly* the same sequence of bits from the source you find on the opensolaris.org web site, your bits will *NOT* be Solaris Express. They won't be that distribution, because they won't represent one of our official distribution builds. They don't have our imprimatur. > I didn't realize OSOL meant *only* kernel/very most core parts. That's just not accurate, and I never said any such thing. Open Solaris is meant (over time) to have it all. > I realize other "distributions" (example: ShillyX Be-whatever, etc) > are built from OSOL, just as other "distributions" are built from > Debian, for example Nexenta (which is a hybrid, being both based on > some of OSOL and some of Nexenta), Ubuntu, etc. No, that's not a good analogy. A good analogy is between Linux itself (via kernel.org), and the various distributions including Debian, Nexenta, Ubuntu, and so on. That there's some interrelations between those distributions (they share ideas) is of no consequence. Linux is an open source repository and set of projects. Debian is a distribution. Open Solaris is an open source repository and projects. Solaris is a distribution. -- James Carlson, KISS Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
