-------- Original-Message -------- Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:45:31 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Bochnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC
> > >But why is SUNW so uninterested??? > >Where is your vision of ^^We strongly believe in "One Solaris"^^ now? > > There is a lot of history there and it is hard to change. Migrating from Xsun to Xorg did work on x86. What "lot of history" do you mean exactly? (okay, /dev/fb is different on x86, and vga text mode etc.) > I'm sure they don't want to ship on Xorg on SPARC which only supports > older framebuffers poorly so a lot more work is involved. What are you referring to? You hopefully do not mean the old unsupported opensourced Xsun shipping together with Xorg. That one truly only supports "older framebuffers". Very old ones. However, I'm talking about Xorg here, not Xorg's co-shipping Xsun. Do you consider Elite3D, Creator3D, PGX, PGX24, PGX32, PGX64, XVR-100, (maybe also XVR-500 / not yet here to test that again) "older frame buffers" ?? They all work quite well with Xorg on sparc (only afb and ffb perform "poorly" as you say, because accelleration does not yet work). Well I know, most of them are EOL now (except the XVR-100). But - on the other hand - certainly 90% (my personal guess) of the existing sparc user base does have one of them. Didn't you see my various Xorg announcements? > We're serious but it's a matter of resources. > > It's also not possible to opensource everything (OpenSourcing costs time > and effort and sometimes you spend those resources only to find out that > you cannot open source the drivers. Is it also a "matter of resources" that you don't allow (even non-commercial) distributors to redistribute a closed binary for /dev/fb for the older framebuffers developed by SUNW themselves (probably no 3rd party NDA's affected)? And what is with the shared Studio C++ runtime required by almost everything : bash-3.1$ ls -al /usr/lib/libC* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 100764 Jan 23 2005 /usr/lib/libC.so.3 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 401144 Jan 23 2005 /usr/lib/libC.so.5 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 63820 Jan 23 2005 /usr/lib/libCrun.so.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 1907540 Jan 23 2005 /usr/lib/libCstd.so.1 A matter of resources ? What will the press think, when they see Belenix marTux OpenSolaris require users to download those libs after each LiveDVD boot (they already see it) ... Why can nobody give me a concrete answer on that issue. I don't understand it. > >p.s.: Is SUNW interested in GRUB2 on sparc? We finally could boot from > USB mass storage then. > > We're working on something akin newboot for SPARC; how would grub2 on > SPARC > allow for booting from USB? Grub2 would need to be loaded from somewhere > else first. I was quite wrong on that. I already admitted it. Thanks again to Jan Setje-Eilers for having corrected me in good detail. Martin _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
