SUNW: No one can ever meet your own DLJ license terms otherwise.
Because the DLJ covered "Distro-JDK" does NOT run without the SUNWspro
C++ Studio runtime.

The official DLJ-FAQ states:

more /newroot/LICENSES/DLJ-FAQ-v1.2.txt
[...]
- Ship only a compatible JDK on your OS. If notified of an
incompatibility, you must correct it and offer a patch or
replacement to downstream recipients within 90 days, or stop
shipment and notify downstream recipients.

[...]

Again, the libC* thing: The DLJ license REQUIRES distributors to ONLY

install their distro-JDK on COMPATIBLE systems. To me this means, we

_can_

include those libs.
It is in SUNW's own interest, because externally everyone will laugh
about us, otherwise. I mean Blastwave_marTux is going to offer a bootable 8.5GB 
DL-LiveDVD, but fails
to include 4 tiny files?
The dilemma of it is, that all other SUNWspro libs _can_ be redistributed
for years, according to what a few guys have told me. Only those 4 libC* files 
do not fall under this special
regulation (only and alone, because those 4 files have been part of Solaris 
since Solaris 2.0 [or so] was out, and there was no need to allow 
redistribution of /usr/lib/libC*, because they were almost considered part of 
the OS).

I publically asked this question over a month ago, but didn't get a
solution so far.
In my eyes just an unintentional responsibility-hole.

Why am I posting this publically?

Because I did ask high-ranking people privately in advance.
Again and again.


Thoughts?


Regards,
Martin Bochnig


Martin Bochnig wrote:

>Please don't understand me wrong: OpenSolaris is imho the best and GREATest 
>project on earth    :)
>
>(That is exactly the reason, why I myself invest so much effort and time.)
>
>I also do understand, that opensourcing huge masses of complex code - with a 
>20++year history - may be very time-, labour- and cost-intensive.
>And of course, that certain pieces cannot be open-sourced at all.
>And I am well aware of OpenSolaris's roadmap, too.
>I am very happy, that you did - and continue to - open Solaris up.
>
>I would just love being explicitly allowed to integrate and redistribute a few 
>closed things 
>{
>*** 
>two of the closed /dev/fb drivers:
>bash-3.1$ find /platform|grep afb
>/platform/sun4u/kernel/drv/sparcv9/afb
>/platform/sun4u/kernel/drv/afb
>/platform/sun4u/kernel/drv/afb.conf
>bash-3.1$ find /platform|grep ffb
>/platform/sun4u/kernel/drv/sparcv9/ffb
>
>***
>the Studio C++ runtime library:
>bash-3.1$ ls -al /usr/lib/libC*
>-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     bin       100764 Jan 23  2005 /usr/lib/libC.so.3
>-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     bin       401144 Jan 23  2005 /usr/lib/libC.so.5
>-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     bin        63820 Jan 23  2005 /usr/lib/libCrun.so.1
>-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     bin      1907540 Jan 23  2005 /usr/lib/libCstd.so.1
>
>And may be one or two more driver modules.
>Plus the FC-AL drivers for QLogic, but that seems already to be under way
>}.
>
>Everyone in the word - including the worst countries - can download SXCR w/o 
>an (btw unverifiable) registration. What is so hard in allowing a few 
>well-known distributors to redistribute those files in binary form (for 
>community / non-profit purposes) ?
>
>Okay, it may not be bad intention.
>I see this now.
>Maybe just a vacuum of responsibility in a few separate niche areas, in a 
>complex global enterprise organisation otherwise working very well.
>I will temprarily continue to work around those things, by letting users 
>download the missing pieces on the fly.
>Okay.
>
>Martin
>  
>

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