Dennis, "diffs" ?!  What we are really seeing...

The power of the Internet lies in its anarchical nature. As such, information is persistent - difficult to remove once posted, transportable - easily moved from place to place, and universal - everything is shared with everyone, everywhere. Hierarchically flat, collaborative groups are best positioned to take advantage of these characteristics. Not only can flat informal organizations access information more effectively, they can use it faster as well.

Networking and using networked information requires 21st century organizational principles (and principals!). Collaborative communities operate in the decision making cycle of companies. Rapid dissemination of information allows for ideas to be applied and improvised to speed innovation and products forward.

Back to work!

Dennis, stay forward, but don't get cut off from the main body! :)

R&B

On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:


On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Still missing the aes256-cbc ciphers etc etc for various reasons.
Mostly government export controls, not technical.

Import controls but probably not relevant anymore (we ship all the 256 bit
ciphers in a download available to almost everyone)

Given that, is there any reason why all the 256 bit cyphers can't be
included in Sun's SSH as shipped with Solaris/Solaris Express?


Stranger still is the bigtime differences between the Sun ssh and the
version I have here from Blastwave :

This is a really well patched machine.  As in _totally_ up to date.[1]

# uname -a
SunOS callisto 5.10 Generic_118833-22 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC- IIi-cEngine
#

Here is the Blastwave rev :

# ls -lap /opt/csw/bin/ssh
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     bin       483248 Jan 16  2005 /opt/csw/bin/ssh
# ldd /opt/csw/bin/ssh
        libresolv.so.2 =>        /lib/libresolv.so.2
libcrypto.so.0.9.7 => /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus/ libcrypto.so.0.9.7
        librt.so.1 =>    /lib/librt.so.1
        libz.so =>       /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8plus+vis/libz.so
        libsocket.so.1 =>        /lib/libsocket.so.1
        libnsl.so.1 =>   /lib/libnsl.so.1
libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8/ libgssapi_krb5.so.2
        libkrb5.so.3 =>  /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8/libkrb5.so.3
        libk5crypto.so.3 =>      /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8/libk5crypto.so.3
        libcom_err.so.3 =>       /opt/csw/lib/sparcv8/libcom_err.so.3
        libc.so.1 =>     /lib/libc.so.1
        libdl.so.1 =>    /lib/libdl.so.1
        libaio.so.1 =>   /lib/libaio.so.1
        libmd5.so.1 =>   /lib/libmd5.so.1
        libmp.so.2 =>    /lib/libmp.so.2
        libscf.so.1 =>   /lib/libscf.so.1
        libkrb5support.so.0 =>   /opt/csw/lib/libkrb5support.so.0
        libdoor.so.1 =>  /lib/libdoor.so.1
        libuutil.so.1 =>         /lib/libuutil.so.1
        libm.so.2 =>     /lib/libm.so.2

Here is the Sun provided ssh gear :

# ldd /bin/ssh
        libsocket.so.1 =>        /lib/libsocket.so.1
        libnsl.so.1 =>   /lib/libnsl.so.1
        libz.so.1 =>     /usr/lib/libz.so.1
        libcrypto.so.0.9.7 =>    /usr/sfw/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7
        libgss.so.1 =>   /usr/lib/libgss.so.1
        libc.so.1 =>     /lib/libc.so.1
        libmp.so.2 =>    /lib/libmp.so.2
        libmd5.so.1 =>   /lib/libmd5.so.1
        libscf.so.1 =>   /lib/libscf.so.1
        libcmd.so.1 =>   /lib/libcmd.so.1
        libdoor.so.1 =>  /lib/libdoor.so.1
        libuutil.so.1 =>         /lib/libuutil.so.1
        libm.so.2 =>     /lib/libm.so.2
#

Those are some fairly large diffs there.


[1] support contract .. got one .. get one ..
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