David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If something happens with a product I'm used to using or debugging, I'm 
> fine. However, it happened with Zope 3.3.0. Specifically, I used Solars' 
> tar to do:
>
>   tar xvf Zope-3.3.0.tar
>
> However, Zope has some stupendously long file paths. Unbeknownst to me, 
> I probably should have put a -E or used GNU tar. So, what happened?

GNU tar uses a non-standard method to store long filenames that Sun's tar
does not understand. In theory, it would be a good idea to create archives
in a standard compliant way but GNU tar did learn to read POSIX tar archives
very recently (a year ago).

In future, Sun tar will be replaced by star and then you will be able to 
read these archives as star knows about the non-standard method for long 
filenames used by GNU tar.

...
> Zope is that you need a good asbestos suit, especially if you're not 
> sure how to ask the right questions], someone worked out I was on 
> Solaris and asked me to use GNU tar.

This problem did not exist if GNU tar did care about standards.


> BTW, Solaris' make and GNU make aren't the same and if they get mixed up 
> for some reason in a build things can just mysteriously not build. Oh, 
> and Solaris doesn't come with the tools that built its kernel [unless 
> you're using a build that was built with the GNU toolset]. I found it 
> very, very jarring to type: "cc hello.c" and then get the "it doesn't 
> exist" message.

GNU make implements extensions to the make syntax that are incompatible to
the extensions implemented by Sun. As most people do not know enough
about make and as many people incorrectly believe that GNU "automake" creates
portable make files (although it just propagates the problems from its input
which is written by humans), these problems exist and you need to live with 
them.


Jörg

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