On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:57:18PM -0800, S Destika wrote:
> > 
> > I agree with some of your post, but the rest is
> > simply untrue. There are plenty of design and
> > implementation discussions. There have been plenty of
> > good and bad words exchanged as well about particular
> > features, etc. There have been discussions about code
> > that sucks and code that does not. You can see a lot
> > of this when it comes to ZFS and the ksh93
> > integration as examples.
> >  
> I did not see ksh93 discussion went anywhere. Or did it? Also I did not think 
> that ZFS was designed in the open. So yeah, there are some pockets where 
> there is some activity but as I said it is nowhere near where it should be if 
> you are expecting concrete, free flowing contributions from people.

If you don't know about the ksh93 discussion, why do you feel qualified
to say it didn't go anywhere?

ZFS was designed and mostly coded before we open sourced Solaris.

> > Just look at the recent discussion on "serendipitous
> > discovery" and /usr/gnu. If you think people aren't
> > having passionate discussions about items related to
> > OpenSolaris, I'm not sure how much attention you're
> > paying.
> >
> I agree I don't follow each and every thing happening on OpenSolaris but I 
> also think that I am fair in judging OpenSolaris based on the end results 
> (How many significant community contributions). 

There is so much happening in individual projects and communities... how
are you determing what the "end results" are?

> > I'm sure not every discussion that could or should be
> > happening here "in the open" is, but a lot of them
> > are, and more of them are happening every day.
> > 
> I was mostly looking at it from a code changes and core design perspective - 
> Is there a place where people can see the commits made to {Open}Solaris code 
> in real-time and can comment/review those changes and then commiters can 
> respond to it?  If there is a place like this, I think it is a good start.

onnv-notify & tools-discuss are two lists that come to mind.

-steve
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