>You could make it a community phenomenon quite like Linux if you would
>allow people to participate without waiting months to see the
>submitted patches integrated. It sucks when a five line patch for a
>very dumb bug is queued and no one cares. It sucks when projects like
>the ksh93 integration need a year, which is 12 months, 367 days or
>just a painful long time to integrate. Do you really think this
>encourages contributors? "Come and wait a year to see your code
>rejected" is the current official slogan of Opensolaris.org
>Which kind of contributor treatment is that?

In some cases the time it takes to integrate is too long and we
should probably be a bit more proactive; Sun not being in the black
for quite some time has stretched engineering resources to its limits
and OpenSolaris integration work is done based on similar prioritizing.

In some cases, the integration started out as simple and then turned
into something a little bit more complicated.

As for ksh93, I think that actually went very well; it's precisely
how such a project would have happened inside Sun (and it may explain
some of the reasons why we did not do it ourselves; by being in the
open we could closely involve the maintainers of the main source
base)

I don't think that you can judge that as an outsider; and you will
remain an outsider (even inside Sun) until you've run through the
complicated process of integrated a major piece of software in
Solaris.

It's easy to see this as just a little bit of paperwork or perhaps
final tollbooth.  But once you've been through it, you realize you
get a lot of meaningful input; you realize you should start soliciting
such input long before you think you're done, long before you've
even started writing code/porting/integrating.  You realize this because
the end product improves, both your contribution to OpenSolaris and
OpenSolaris itself.

You'll be enlightened.  But it is baptism by fire.

Oh, and when did kprobes and ReiserFS integrate?

Casper
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