OK. I'll buy it.

Than based on what we can claim that our community is indeed
fast-growing, what numbers we should use? If we have such numbers, could
somebody provide a comparative statistics during past 6 months?

Could it be over-all number of users on mailing lists? How many
subscribed/unsubscribed during certain period? Number of downloads may
be?

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 09:55 -0800, John Plocher wrote:
> Erast Benson wrote:
> > I didn't say we are dead community. :-) And I said almost zero
> > participation from outside of Sun 
> 
> 
> What are your expectations here?  That at some point in the
> future, more than 25% of the contributions will come from
> outside of Sun?  >50%? >75%?  100%?
> 
> This community is intended to be inclusive of both Sun and non-Sun
> engineers; in my mind, it would be a disaster to have an OpenSolaris
> community where there was little or no Sun engineering presence.
> That would turn OpenSolaris into one of those worthless "toss it
> over the wall and see if it survives" debacles.
> 
> My expectations are pretty modest:
> 
>      I don't expect individual contributers to take on huge projects,
>      though there will always be exceptional people who do the
>      impossible - and make it look easy!
> 
>      I expect lots of people (inside and outside of Sun) to take on
>      and be successful at simple things - bugfixes, low hanging
>      fruit, etc.
> 
>      Being pragmatic, I believe that it takes a long term commitment
>      (meaning money and people) to do non-trivial projects, and as such,
>      implies corporate backing - Sun's or Apple's or ....
> 
>      All open source efforts stratify into tiers:  Core leaders, Core
>      "doers", Peripheral "doers", Talkers and Watchers.  OpenSolaris
>      is no different.
> 
> I expect that this will show itself in the beginning as
> 
>      Most community members will be content to sit back and watch
>      Some will be vocal and want to be heard on the various mailing lists
>      A few will get involved with the code
>      Fewer still will actually submit bugfixes and simple RFEs
>      A relative handful will get involved, start taking charge, make waves, 
> etc
>      A dozen or less will succeed and become leaders.
> 
> This isn't "just" an OpenSolaris viewpoint; it holds true for all the other
> open source efforts I am or have been involved with as well.
> 
>    -John
> 
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