Scott Tracy wrote:
On Feb 1, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Stephen Lau wrote:
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:06:34PM -0700, Scott Tracy wrote:
1) I voiced earlier that I was disappointed at previous projects
that
didn't have source available either, and that I was going to be a
jerk
about it from now on.
I don't want that to be a gating factor to get community involvement
and create a beachhead for a project. In fact I can see where the
start of a project is a design doc and both folks in and outside Sun
do joint development to get a project started/completed.
Yup, I'd like to see that too.
But that's not what Honeycomb is offering. Honeycomb is offering at
best: involvement with the SDK - which is not the same as open sourcing
Honeycomb.
No. They are offering to lead with information and the SDK. The code
is also coming.
So why is it a bit deal to start in the applicance/storage community
with discussion and info on the SDK and ask for a project to be created
when there is source to deliver ?
Maybe the problem is simply one of names for the OpenSolaris site
infrastructure a project has one a very specific distinction from a
community - a project has one or more source repositories. If you have
not source code you don't need a project.
Let me give some examples:
In the Security Community we have "projects" (we used that name because
it is what we choose before the official projects infrastructure
existed), these are hosted in the community for things that need
discussion, design documents, a mailing list but do not need at this
time a source repository. Mostly these are because they are already
integrated projects in other consolidation but they are "security
features".
We were until very recently including crypto in there, but we have just
setup a crypto project. There was one main reason we setup a crypto
project - we needed a set of source repositories hosted on
opensolaris.org to share between internal Sun people and our "project"
members outside of Sun. Ultimately all our code will end up in the ON
consolidation but we are hosting work in progress code in the crypto
project.
The Trusted Extensions functionality asked for a project and it was
rejected because it didn't need to host work in progress source code (it
was pretty much finished modulo bug fixing by this point) so using the
security community to host the content and mailing list discussions
seems to work out just fine.
One thing we really should try and avoid is creating too many mailing lists.
Another example, the bluetooth project doesn't have its own mailing list
and exists only to host a source repository - the discussions happen in
the drivers community.
--
Darren J Moffat
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