> On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >And how far have the star or ksh projects
> progressed? The last one
> > >appears to be in serious trouble now because Sun
> has to complain about
> > >every little detail and the star project makes
> either zero progress or
> > >no progress announcements.
> >
> >
> > The only problem in the ksh93 project is people who
> are not part of
> > the project team and who are not participating in
> the review and
> > who understand bugger all of the processes we
> created for OpenSolaris
> > and which have worked reasonably well for Sun
> internally, butting
> > in with inflamatory remarks when there's even the
> slightest hint
> > of constructive criticism in messages from Sun
> employees.
> 
> The major problem with the ksh93 project is Sun
> Microsystems who is
> adding more and more mindless rules. Once one task
> has been finished
> Sun always comes up with two more items. Which kind
> of cooperation is
> this? I really think there are too many rules. They
> may work within
> Sun and may even explain the degradation of quality
> once Sun tries to
> ship it (re: JDS versus normal Gnome) but this is
> hardly appropriate
> for an Open Source project.

Hmmm, how did JDS/gnome come up here??? Since it has, I assume
you don't like the look & feel of JDS, and would prefer Gnome. This
is a subjective view rather than a "degradation of quality" or inappropriate
for a Open Source project. It is mere branding, and you are only a few
mouse clicks from changing to suit your tastes. Personally I quite like
the new JDS look, and prefer it to the default Gnome look. This though
is purely down to what I prefer. I certainly don't think it is something to
get upset about.... 

By the way when you make quotes like "mindless rules", it really helps your
point, if you produce some examples. Otherwise your words look rather irrelevant
to the discussion.

Doug
 
 
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