>Wayne, > > Thank you again for reporting the problem. > > We have identified the root cause, why the mistake > was made. We reused > the names posted on an official ISO web site without > careful review. We > learned a lesson that we really should have paid > closer attention to > all strings even if they come from ISO. > > We will set up a process to scan all translatable > strings and translated > strings to eliminate future mistakes of this kind. > > Thanks again for letting us know about the problem. > > Ienup & Jack on behalf of Sun G11N > > Hawaii Linux Institute wrote at 03/22/07 01:53: > > Hi Ienup (& Jack): > > > > I knew that once you saw those three simple words > (& they are in plain > > English), you would instantly recognize the > potential calamity--and the > > uproar--that they may cause. I am also sure you > will now sympathize why > > I have been so allusive about this matter, This > thing (not just a bug) > > is so repugnant that no one dares to be its > messenger. > > > > There should be no doubt that Solaris Express will > not be allowed in > > Taiwan so long as these three simple words are not > removed. This is the > > best case scenario. We are all willing to believe > that this is just an > > unfortunate mistake caused by ignorance and a total > lack of political > > sensitivity. However, to those who may intimately > feel offended, Sun > > will not be so easy getting off the hook. And the > trashing can drag on > > for an unbearable duration, especially when the > current Taiwan > > government is going through its own version of the > Cultural Revolution > > (see the March 17th issue of the Economist) and is > eager to find a > > target enemy. > > > > > > Ienup Sung wrote: > > > >> Thanks very much... > >> > >> Hi Wayne, > >> > >> Thanks very much once again for bring this issue > to the forum. Much > >> appreciated. I think this is just a mistake caused > by ignorance and > >> this appears a P1 top bug that need to fixed as > soon as possible for > >> the next build. > >> > >> Ienup > >> > >> Jack Kang wrote at 03/21/07 19:40: > >> > >>> We haven't provided any translation for new > dtlogin language > >>> selection panel. it is an English issue. we will > file a bug against > >>> this issue. CDE team will handle it. > >>> > >>> thanks, > >>> > >>> jack > >>> > >>> Ienup Sung wrote: > >>> > >>>> [ I changed Alan's email address and > opensolaris-discuss to Bcc at this > >>>> reply. Please check on or join i18n-discuss if > you're interested > >>>> in this > >>>> discussion. ] > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, Alan, for bring this to i18n-discuss. > >>>> > >>>> Hello Wayne, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for bring up on the "derogatory" language > issue. > >>>> > >>>> Would you please remind this forum on the > derogatory language > >>>> associated with > >>>> the Traditional Chinese locale at Build 56? > >>>> > >>>> If you have already sent in, sorry, somehow I > don't remember email > >>>> thread at > >>>> this forum mentioning about the issue and > wondering if I missed it... > >>>> > >>>> Thanks very much in advance, > >>>> > >>>> Ienup > >>>> > >>>> Alan Coopersmith wrote at 03/21/07 09:39: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Now back to my main issue. The "derogatory" > language associated > >>>>>> with the traditional Chinese locale has not > been corrected. I > >>>>>> went back to Build 55b, & it was OK there. > Apparently someone > >>>>> sneaked in this change in Build 56. As it > stands now, Solaris > >>>>>> Express will be banned in Taiwan (& Sun will > be publicly > >>>>>> persecuted if someone makes a big deal out of > it). I am sure this > >>>>>> is an inadvertent error. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which I've cc'ed > here) is the most > >>>>> efficient way to get the attention of the > people responsible for > >>>>> those translations, but without more detail > about what you find > >>>>> objectionable (i.e. what wording on what > screen/application) I'm > >>>>> not sure what they can do. > _______________________________________________ > i18n-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/i18n-disc > uss >
Hi Ienup, Thanks for being so alert in taking actions. I discovered that the Starter Kit is based on SXDE 02/07, which is based on Build 55b. Thus, we should be OK. The last thing we want to see is Sun sending out a bunch of free DVDs antagonizing an entire nation. I don't know if anyone still remembers the Windows 95 fiasco in China? In a nutshell, what happened then was, shortly after the simplified Chinese edition of Windows 95 was officially released, Microsoft had to halt its sales because someone planted an anti-communist slogan in a few obscure places in Windows 95 (Microsoft had outsourced the translation job to third party developers in Taiwan). See, http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.asian.american/browse_thread/thread/60946b1422b74c34/188f34c61e3f50f9%23188f34c61e3f50f9 Time Magazine described the cross-strait relationship as among one of the most dangerous flash points in the world. However, because of the tight economic integration (the trades between China and Taiwan approach $100 billion USD a year, and essentially every Taiwanese manufacturer has its production facility in China), we tend to forget about this inconvenient truth. I am probably more sensitive about this issue than most others on this forum because of my personal experience. In March 1995, the US Patent and Trademark Office committed exactly the same mistake as Sun did between Builds 55b and 56. See the screenshot of a US patent issued in March 1995 (labeled as sol_i18n-1, please pay attention to the address of the Assignee): http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/429516284/ Our clients from Taiwan were agitated and many refused to accept the Letters Patents issued which contain the three hot offending words. One of our clients, the Industrial Technology Research Institute--the national applied research lab of Taiwan with an annual research budget exceeding half a billion USD--even flew its IP boss to our office in Crystal City, insisting that we take immediate legal actions. As slow as the US government is often perceived, the Patent Office agreed to settle even before the formal complaint paper was served. See the screenshot of another US patent issued in June of the same year (labeled as sol_i18n-2, again please pay attention to the "revised" address of the Assignee): http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/429516286/ During the Windows 95 fiasco in China, police (public security officer, 公安局）raided stores and offices in Beijing searching for Windows 95 installed machines and confiscating Windows 95 disks. It was scary. I don't think anything like that is going to happen here; we can easily prove that we are innocent. But there is no telling how a politician may make a clearly innocent situation dire. At least I am so relieved that the starterkit is Build 55b-based. This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
