On 5/10/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The fact that I had the "Schily userland", did allow me mostly forget
about the platform I was working on...... using my editor, my shell, my
"match" insteas of *grep, my tar, my make, .... did give me the same
behavior for > 80% of the tasks I was doing.
Conclusion: Let's have Solaris provide all useful kinds of userland
flavors
but do not make it a "new Linux". note that Linux does not give this
kind of freedom to it's users.
Could you give some more details about what you mean with "Linux does not
give this kind of freedom to its users" ?
I think in this discussion there are at least three entities:
- the kernel ("linux"), which is irrelevant to this userspace discussion
- the GNU set of applications typically shipped with "Linux"
- the distribution, which actually chooses which applications it ships by
default, or provides "packages" for. This entity would also determine the
scripts that are used to boot and handle all kind of tasks.
In the context you said "Linux does not give this kind of freedom", it
seemed to me that you meant that Linux does not allow its users to use
different tools (editor, shell, match/grep, tar, make, ...) if they want so.
If this is what you meant, then I believe that is wrong. Nothing in "Linux"
(as a whole) prevents you from using other applications, other scripts,
shells, or whatever you would want.
This also applies to OpenSolaris: in both operating systems, you can modify
anything you would want, because it's open. Anyone can create its own
implementation of the userland. What I think is therefore more important is
the defaults. It's not because anything is adjustable, that anyone is
willing to do so. Any OS needs a good, user-friendly and rich default
environment, if it wants to attract new users. Otherwise, in the extreme,
you could even leave out all configuration scripts from packages, and let
the user write them all by himself. This would certainly be most
user-unfriendly and unproductive.
Thomas
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