I think it's ok to make Solaris more Linux like. More precisly, I think it should say that one of the branch of Solaris is more GNU like. Linux is the kernel, or say OS of the GNU project. As a user coming from Redhat and Debian, I feel the command tools in (Open)Soalris is not habitual for me, for example the grep tool and the rm tool.
(Open)Solaris is absorbing more and more GNU softwares, and I'm glad to know there exists a Debian-like Solaris. SunOS is a good OS kernel, both in performance and in reliablity behavior. But its users is much more less than Linux. There're many historical reasons. But now, Sun wants to popularize it and wins more users from Linux, Windows, etc. It's a good way to make one of the (Open)Soalris branch Linux/GNU-like. The most important things is we are using the well-designed kernel, SunOS. I'm glad that one of the Solairs branch is GNU-like. And it is just one of the Solairs branch. Solaris is open now, GNU-like Solaris can attract more Linux users and Linux developers. And it's more easy for they to migrate from Linux to Solaris. Linux is the OS of GNU project, why can not SunOS be one of the OS of GNU project? Now the Solaris world is more open. The older Solaris Users can use their favorite traditional Solaris, and Linuxer need not change their habit when using GNU-like Solairs. Everyone can benifit from the OpenSolaris project and work well under his favorite environment. Above is my opinion. Thanks. Regards TJ 2007/5/10, Gueven Bay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/-Sun-hopes-for-Linux-like-Solaris/0,130061733,339276057,00.htm http://news.com.com/Sun+hopes+for+Linux-like+Solaris/2100-1016_3-6182526.html?tag=nefd.lede http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=17881 http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/05/10/030226.shtml You know what, I totally disagree with this move: Don't make Solaris Linux like, BUT teach us Linux guys the Solaris way. As I read here again and again the "POSIX way" - what ever that means, at least I don't know, and I am sure many "young"(as in age and as in new to Unix) Linux users don't know,too -. Instead of this "strategy" to mangle Linux like use into (Open)Solaris I would make all engineers working on (Open)Solaris stop coding, take them to a studio and record with all of them teaching videos - beginning with "What is a Terminal?" over "SUN coreutils and GNU coreutils the differences" all the way up to "So, you want to code the SUN libc from scratch, boy?" - make the videos under a free Creative Commons and post them at video.google.com, (And please, don't link in your answers these bad videos from the various user groups wher you either don't understand the speaker or you don't see his slides or both) The important thing is : Teach, Show, Translate the Linux skills of the ten-thousands of Linux users into Solaris skills, Make the transition easy by explaining, showing. Instead of coding, porting, hacking GNU bash into Solaris just show, explain and make it easy to code scripts portable between GNU Bash and KSH. Transfer the engineers to the documentation department and let them make multi-media conferences with the users (GNOME meeting , Skype, and with all that). There is a reason, that (Open)Solaris has the userland and libs and all that what it has. May it be history, may it be engineering decision (backwards compatibility, POSIX compatibility) may it be what it is: But you don't get the people into the system(OpenSolaris) if they don't understand. Knowledge is the key!!1!one!!: Either the Linux users today are too young to ever have learned the Unix history, or they are maybe old enough but they are stuck in the Linux land(maybe even by force of the employer:"You have to learn that, because we become modern now and use Linux") . In both cases they don't have the knowledge and don't understand what Solaris is. Bring them enlightenment (not the window-manager) then you will have users. For example I have still two questions: 1) What is this "POSIX way" thing? 2) Why does under Schillix my Backspace key not have the function I expect it to have? (*LOL*) PS: I hope , Mr Murdock, you are reading this Mailing List or Forum because my posting here is my answer to the above linked press articles. This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
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