"Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joerg,
>
> You need to take a chill pill, as you are alienating (have alienated?)
> the group you are seeking collaboration with. Let me give you a hint.
> Most people don't like to have their motives questioned at every move.
> Nor do they like contrariness, when it seems to have no logical
> purpose. (Other than whining about your own goals not being
> prioritized.)
Not true: I am not in a condition that needs a chill down.
The strange thing with this thread is that it has not been aroused by me.
I am just sitting back and trying to prevent a discussion from derailing.
> I've noticed that you also seem to have something against Sun, and Sun
> employees. Keep in mind that Sun funds OpenSolaris, and if it wasn't
> for Sun there wouldn't even be an open source code base to work off.
> Not to mention, most of the OpenSolaris community is comprised of Sun
> Employees.
Wrong again: I do not have anything against Sun. I am one of the biggest
supporters of Sun. In case you don't know, I use SunOS since ~ February 1985
and I have a Sun at home since May 1986.
I however get angry if I see that people do not do whyt they did promise.
This is related with the ability to play in a team. People who do not
do what they do not play well in a team. Fortunately only _very_ few people
at Sun seem to have this problem but they seem to be sometimes very effective.
> Your postings have made me feel like you are someone who is not a team
> player. (At least based on your recent posts, as I am a new member of
> the community) I don't know if this is just *my* perception, but I
> don't really feel inclined to ever work with you on any project. (I
> do, however, keep an open mind, and hope that you can adapt your
> method of communication to change my perceptions).
Team work is done by promising things to other people from the team.
A problem arises is one or more persons do not redeem the promises they
did make.
> > BTW: this is not to you but to Ian, I still would like to know whether
> > Project Indiana is a glossy paper project or whether is should result
> > in code.
>
> If you look back through the posts, Ian and Mark have already stated
> what Indiana is.
>
> >- Project Indiana is the name Ian and I are using to refer to some of
> our high level goals and
> > strategy for Solaris. There is nothing radically new about Project Indiana.
> > It is a collection of
> > things that are either already being worked on by Solaris engineering
> > and/or the OpenSolaris
> > community or have been widely discussed and generally recognized as things
> > we needed to
> > do with Solaris including making it more familiar to a wider community
> > (yes, including the
> > Linux community) and making it easier to install.
>
> To make it simple it is currently just a set of goals, that when
> combined together set an alternate strategy for Solaris.
And this is not an explanation - sorry.
> Personally I believe that Ian is really committed to what is now
> called Indiana, as his work on Debian embodies most of the selfsame
> goals that he is proposing for Solaris.
When I heard that he did come to Sun I was in hope that things could become
better, but the way he did reply to my questions today and the fact that
he did not reply to some of my proposals makes me believe that he is not really
interested in the OpenSolaris cummunity. This looks bad.
> brian
>
> P.S. - Have you ever considered the fact that your projects might not
> be getting prioritized for reasons other than technical? You really
It indeed seems that some people try to prevent cooperation/collaboration
but I don't know why.
These people must be people who did never talk to me face to face as I have a
very good relation to many people inside Sun and know a lot of them face to
face for a longer time.
Jörg
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