> RIGHT...for a modified sendmail that does not change
> at all save for security exploits...hmm...you really
> have a closed mind. The only 'engineering' needed
> here
> would be how to quickly replace the OS with a more
> efficient one and making sure that the OS gets its
> security holes plugged quickly without breaking
> anything.

"Quickly replace"? You mean, walk around with a CD or DVD, log onto the 
console, run install?

Now it's my turn to write "yawn"...

And what would you do if your environment grew? Would you still be running 
around, installing systems? And if you had your customers requiring all kinds 
of different things from you, all at the same time?

What you describe is easy with one person, if you have up to 10 systems, 20 
tops. Honestly, it's really not fun to go around and install systems manually, 
let alone configure them.

Boring.

> Those methodics are so exclusive to Solaris.

Incorrect. You can do the same thing with HP-UX and IRIX.

Actually, it would work for FreeBSD and Linux, too, up to a point. Some things 
could not be carried over simply because Linux lacks engineering and 
architecture to make them feasible.

> Huh? What is going to beat automatic updates?

A flash of the system that lasts about all of 45 seconds. Meanwhile, the other 
half of the cluster is still serving, without interruption to the service. It 
is possible to do; I've demoed it recently.

And BTW the cluster is also configured automatically, no manual configuration 
is needed or involved.

> yeah, nothing like flar exists outside of solaris.
> Which planet do you live on? You would never imagine
> images + automatic updates because you cannot do that
> in Solaris. All you can do is maintain staging box
> and
> flar out when you are happy with staging box.

Ignite-UX? Roboinst? Come on, cut me some slack. I've been in your shoes, doing 
Linux boxes.

And I don't see why I couldn't do automatic updates on Solaris. A cleverly 
written Makefile will take care of that in a jiffy. One doesn't even need a 
fancy tool like yum or apt-get.

Actually, I've got an even better idea: just flash the system with an 
incremental flar. Much faster. You'd most likely argue this would cause a 
disruption of service. But when you update running services on a system, you 
have to restart them anyway. So I don't see the difference. Of course, the 
disruption of service is a moot point if I have a cluster.

> Right. This from the CLI guy? Click Click Click?

To get to that point, one must first master CLI, and many other things. 
Besides, at least that "GUI" runs in a web browser, making it completely 
platform independant, meaning that it can be used to manage other platforms, 
even Linux, as well.
 
 
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