On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:11:37AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >you cant support source only packages and let your users compile them
> >anyway they want, there are simply too many variables to consider. I
> >think you actually void the support from redhat if you dont use one of
> >the provided kernels.
> >imho, source code availability is a plus but to your regular sysadmin
> >is just one tiebreaker
> 
> 
> I am confident that the 0.1% number is an accurate upperbound
> of Linux users actually looking at or using source.
> 
> If that were not the case, the Linux market would be much smaller indeed.
> 
> I've worked in places where system administrators hacked source code
> which was available (BSD Unix, source licenses).
> 
> Invariably, it is a *bad* idea; but that point is never driven home
> until one of the administrators does leave or is hit by a truck.

All of the large international financial institutions roll their own
packages from source and distribute internally in their preferred
manner (though the definition of a package may vary. Many do not try
to use solaris packages having decided they're useless - tarballs or
golden masters + rdist/rsync is sometimes the chosen way). 

So, for example, until very recently no-one would even consider using
the Solaris sendmail. The challenge in the past was not having patches
replace the proper sendmail.cf (which is not a problem when using rpms
or debs unless you go out of your way to break your own packages).

This is across all of the major survivors of the unix wars - solaris,
hp/ux, aix and linux - that I've seen used.

Having been the linux maintainer at one of these institutions with
responsabilities to back-up the maintainers of products on other
platforms, I've been exposed to the mind-numbing stupidity of how the
packages on these platforms work, and their limitations. Building
packages for a linux distro is a pleasure compared to building
sun/hp/aix packages in every way.

-Peter

-- 
The 5 year plan:
In five years we'll make up another plan.
Or just re-use this one.

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