Eric Boutilier writes:
> On Thu, 17 May 2007, James Carlson wrote:
> > Do we force future project teams to test in both environments?
> 
> Eh? Ian -- if the above is a valid question, then my brain is suffering some 
> _major_ dissonance here. And I went back and read your original posts too.
> 
> If what we're talking about is a reference distro designed by the
> OpenSolaris community, as guided by the OGB (we are aren't we?), then the
> above question is totally irrelevant at this stage (and probably won't be
> for years). How could Sun Microsystems possibly consider whether it will
> want to force project teams to test in the new environment? Sun doesn't
> even know what kind of reference distro the OpenSolaris community will
> design yet.

Since I asked it, I obviously think it is a relevant question.  ;-}

The implication of what Ian has been suggesting is that this new
distribution will essentially have Major release binding.  All options
are open, and what we had thought of as legacy interfaces preserved
for compatibility (such as default "df" output) are up for grabs.  The
whole point to having this extra distribution -- as best I can tell
from the discussion so far -- is to allow for incompatible but "Linux
friendly" changes.

Perhaps we already have this underlying problem and we just haven't
quite owned up to it as a community.  Testing currently is a required
part of integrating into (at _least_ ON).  We don't want people
contributing broken stuff.

But the question is "testing how and where?"  Should testing a given
set of changes on (say) Nexenta and ignoring Solaris Express be
sufficient?  Why is Solaris Express in any privileged position?
Should project teams test on _every_ distribution?

> >From where I sit, questions of design-origin -- especially locus of
> control of the design -- are at the root of a almost all the turmoil in
> the discussions here.

Yes.

> Make no mistake. I believe -- as everyone does -- that it's perfectly fine
> for many/most OpenSolaris projects to be totally Sun-derived,
> Sun-designed.  But heavan forbid, not THIS one -- the one that wants to be
> the OpenSolaris community blessed reference distro.

Absolutely agreed; it seems like a non-sequitur.

I think the questions about cost involved in potentially forking
direction are still valid, though.

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