> UNIX admin wrote:
> > if I can learn once, and use anywhere 
> > and if I can write once, and use anywhere 
> > ergo I am more productive
> 
> But this community is /not/ the Solaris admin
> community,
> it is a development community focused on improving
> OpenSolaris.

Neither were the first /users/ of UNIX. They weren't sysadmins, since there was 
no such thing back then. They were just users that weren't afraid to roll up 
their sleeves and read the documentation (or write documentation, depending on 
the need).

> That means changing things - hopefully for the
> better.
> 
> If all you want is the status quo, and for it to
> never change,
> you may be in the wrong community :-)

What I want is not to grovel before the sitting penguin. System V tools are 
great and I don't want any GNU garbage. GNU IS NOT UNIX. I want UNIX System V 
Release 4.0 or higher.

I am using Solaris for a reason. If I wanted Linux, I would still be on Linux, 
and would have never looked back.

That does not mean I'm against improvements. Quite the contrary. Solaris has 
pah-lenty of room to improve.

> This whole conversation is so last century; hell, I
> lived
> thru an identical one ~20 years ago, although at that
> time
> the players were stodgy old BSD -vs- the upstart
> ATT-USG;
> the "opensolaris" at the time was this new distro
> called
> SystemVr4 (aka Solaris 2.0)  Go figure...

Well, guess what? I still remember the days when a Solaris system printed:

UNIX System V Release 4.0

I was just a kid back then, and I consider myself extremely lucky that the 
first UNIX I came in contact with had been Solaris. I still count my lucky 
stars up to this present day.

> Instead of spending so much TALK on why this or that
> status quo
> is better than the other, how about instead spending
> the EFFORT
> to improve things?

I have an RTI pending. So this is not all blabla for me. I'm actually involved 
with improving OpenSolaris. Next question?
 
 
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