On Thu, 31 May 2007, Simon Phipps wrote:


On May 31, 2007, at 15:24, Brian Gupta wrote:

One other comment. Generally, a project proposal, would be posted to
the interested communities for comment, before being submitted fait
acompli to the OGB. (I have cc'ed in those communities that I think,
at a minimum, should be included

Actually, I agree with James that the project is so far-reaching that it's a community-wide issue - I think Glynn did the right thing approaching the OGB

Agreed - it's a community-wide issue.

I would have preferred to have seen Glynns proposal go through some discussion and refinement via osol-discuss before being presented to the OGB. It currently feels unrefined, disorganized and very "last minute" in its current form (IMHO). Which is strange - since its been widely anticipated for weeks now.

and osol-discuss lists, although it's good to see which lists you think are affected too. I'd like to see the OGB give positive, supportive guidance (as well as to see your proposal and Glynn's harmonised), probably by selecting or creating a community to work on the proposal you and Glynn are pioneering.

Agreed.  Lets see the OGB say "this is how to proceed".

But even if it was the wrong choice, I'm eager to have us all channel this "stop energy" and suspicion of Sun into something positive. For goodness sake, Sun's executives are agreeing with you and investing in the idea you were discussing!

Both these project proposals are only good news for OpenSolaris. And its really exciting to see that resources are being made available from the very highest levels of Sun management.

For folks on those lists Brian added that aren't on OSOL-Discuss: Glynn's proposal can be found at:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2007-May/030366.html

One point I'd like to emphasize, is that if the OGB say (something like) "process A has to be followed" then they should ensure that the implementation resources are pre-allocated to ensure that this happens smoothly and quickly. IOW the resources to ensure that "process A" can be implemented and completed in a timely manner. And this would include having people with the necessary tools/training etc. be ready, willing and able to perform the necessary duties to get it done expeditiously. Then announce it.

Regards,

Al Hopper  Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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