Stephen Lau wrote:
Dave Miner wrote:
Bonnie Corwin wrote:
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 06:57:32PM -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:41:52AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote:
The process requires that this be sent to one or more community
groups
for sponsorship consideration...
I don't agree. Here's how I'd put it: "The almost-but-not-quite-yet
OGB
blessed project instantiation draft proposal will require
that this be sent... etc."
It was approved in the public and open April 25th meeting, the minutes
of which reflect that approval and were posted as required.
Subsequent feedback is a basis for modifying the policy; it is not a
barrier to its implementation. No one read the final document and the
minutes and said "This is not the policy we approved; a new vote is
needed." We simply cannot allow cycles of feedback, however
constructive and worthwhile, to delay indefinitely the adoption and
implementation of a policy that has already been approved in
accordance with the Constitution.
In short: The policy was approved by the OGB and that approval was
communicated to the community in accordance with the Constitution. It
is in effect, and project teams are expected to follow it.
I'm sorry, but this doesn't work.
You can not expect community members to read all minutes from all OGB
meetings (which don't happen regularly) to see if decisions were made
that change policies and processes for OpenSolaris.
We have an -announce alias. We have process directions on various
web pages.
How does it make any sense to say that something approved in a
meeting and captured in minutes is now policy that everyone has to
follow? When there was no announcement, there are no new directions
posted, and Eric's repeated emails saying he was continuing to set up
projects using the old process were ignored.
I'm with Bonnie here. So far, it seems that the OGB expects all of us
to follow the discussions on ogb-discuss in order to know about
significant changes in policy. I'm also perturbed at the amount of
discussion that's apparently occurred about re-organizing communities,
yet as a leader of a community which is apparently subject to some
change here, I've had *zero* communication with the OGB on the topic.
That's my fault; my original proposal got lots of feedback, and I need
to make some fairly substantial revisions.
I've been out for a month (wedding/honeymoon/vacation), so nothing has
happened in the past month re: this proposal. I need to incorporate a
lot of the feedback and start discussions with the community groups
regarding the matter.
Thanks for following up, Steve, I'd forgotten you were gallivanting the
globe. You are all pretty communicative individually in my experience,
so I found the situation somewhat mystifying. One suggestion which may
be helpful (it would at least help me ;-) would be to set up an RSS feed
for OGB meeting minutes (and of course publish them in a timely fashion).
Dave
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