On 7/22/07, IT3 Stuart Blake Tener, USN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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> On 7/21/07 9:37 PM, "john g4lt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On 7/21/07, Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> To whom it shall concern or can just help out:
> >
> > technically, since opensolaris is a volunteer community, it concerns
> > nobody, unless they wish to help
>
> Sir, indeed you are instantiate of the very animus for addressing the
> community using the language articulated in the above salutation.
> Technically if you had any concern for people and weren't a jerk off
> (ostensibly only in terms of your personality and not technical prowess),
> you wouldn't respond as you did. However, I will assert a presumptive
> position that you do seem to want to help out, even absent your
> idiosyncratic personality.

given that you're an IT3, they pay you to know more than what you've
indicated.  please do us all a favor and RTFM

> Thus, you sir, represent a subset of the cross section of audience I was
> hoping to engage. You know, the kind of person that can and wants to help
> out, but does not have any concern for the person they are helping as is
> usually indicative by their course expenditure of words in conjunction with
> a belligerent concern for others intent to be kind and nice. Thus, my
> salutation was properly indicative of whom I suspected would potentially
> respond, and have the technical information I was seeking.
>
> A fellow just like you sir...
>
> >
> >> I recently came into a few e450s (two of them), so please don't recommend
> >> some other hardware, that I wish to load Solaris onto. Indeed I would like 
> >> to
> >> understand the answer to these questions in not just the context of
> >> Opensolaris but in the context of Solaris GA and Solaris Express as well.
> >>
> >> e450 Hardware questions:
> >
> > http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/E450/E450.html
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this link.

> >> What DVD drives are supported on the SCSI bus for an e450 to boot from for
> >> the purposes of asserting a DVD based Opensolaris or Solaris 10 
> >> installation?
> >
> > any SCSI CD or DVD will work.
>
> Thank you, this is helpful to know, as a long time ago Sun hardware asserted
> the requisite of CD-ROM (SCSI types) having been jumpered for 2048 block
> transfers vice 512 byte block transfers (back in the SPARCstation IPC/IPX
> days), so it is nice to hear that today such concerns have been obviated.

It hasn't been "obviated", it's just any modern SCSI CD/DVD can tell

> >
> >> Can an IDE DVD drive be installed onto the e450 somehow and booted from for
> >> Solaris installation purposes?
> >
> > NO
>
> Actually a friend mentioned that there are IDE to SCSI protocol translation
> bridge boards; though a used DVD drive would be cheaper, do you have any
> experience with such boards and their application in the instant case?

then to the computer, it's not an IDE, n'est pas?

> >
> >> What boards must I had to increase the number of SCSI drives that the e450
> >> can accept into the e450 front bay (in currency it accepts only four)?
> >
> > see the sunsolve link
>
> After a fully investigative read of this email, no sunsolve link seems to be
> present. Perhaps you neglected to make it inclusive?

perhaps you failed to read?

> >
> >> If you have a DVD drive or DASD expansion backplane cards, please contact 
> >> me
> >> at [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can work something out.
> >>
> >>
> >> Solaris/Hardware Support Questions:
> >>
> >> Can the e450 support a USB PCI card for external USB drive support?
> >
> > solaris can, I don't know if the e450 will see it from openprom
>
> Presuming that the inability for OpenProm to notice the existence of the USB
> PCI card (for bootability purposes) is correct (I have no reason to contest
> your logic here), would the USB PCI Card then function for the purposes of
> providing USB external drive support, for post-bootup additional storage?
>
> >
> >> Can the e450 support a FireWire PCI card for external FireWire drive 
> >> support?
> >
> > solaris can, I don't know if the e450 will see it from openprom
>
> I presume that the answer to the above entitled question concerning USB
> drive support for non-bootable purposes would be the same here, if,
> presumptively the FireWire PCI card functioned post boot-up, no?

what, you can't read english?

> >
> >> Can the e450 support a WiFi PCI card?
> >
> > solaris can't
>
> What about USB based WiFi adapters running under Solaris, post boot up,
> using a USB PCI Card (if one functioned at that point)?

let me put this in terms you can even understand: THERE IS NO SUPPORT
FOR ANY WIFI NETWORKING FOR SPARC.  I take it that english is a
tertiary language for you?

> >
> >> Can the e450 support any IDE ATAPI or IDE SATA/PATA controllers?
> >
> > solaris can, the openprom won't see it before boot
>
> Do you know which controllers for IDE ATAPI, IDE SATA/PATA, USB, or FireWire
> (which function only post-boot) are compatible with Solaris (or OpenSolaris)
> when running in an E450 environment?

that would take much more care than I am able to give.  I know that
IDE/firewire/USB are available on sparc only because they are fully
supported on Suns that have them onboard, such as the SB100

> >
> >>
> >> Solaris 10 Questions:
> >>
> >> If I wish to run an iSCSI target under Solaris 10, will GA do it or do I 
> >> need
> >> the Express verison of Solaris 10 (for an E450, SPARC), or Opensolaris?
> >
> > sol10GA didn't have iSCSI.  I think U3 gets it though
>
> Thank you for pointing this out.
>
> >
> >> If the GA version of Solaris 10 supports iSCSI targets, how capable is it 
> >> to
> >> socialize that with ZFS in combination?
> >
> > GA didn't have ZFS, U3 does
>
> Thank you for pointing this out.
>
> >
> >> Other than Solaris Express being more experimental than the GA version, how
> >> problematic is it to run Express vice the GA in terms of daily reliability?
> >
> > why don't you just try it?
>
> The above entitled commentary has compelled me to respectfully request of
> Sun to transport a copy of Solaris Express DVDs to me. Most assuredly you
> have convinced me of the merits of appropriating the time and resources (a
> hard drive for installation thereof) in order to conduct a proper assessment
> of Solaris Express' capabilities.

pity that your own questions didn't convince you of the need to do so,
otherwise, you could have prevented yourself from "remov[ing] all
doubt" to quote Eliot

> >
> >> Taking a presumptive position that Solaris 10 Express,GA, or OpenSolaris
> >> allows for an iSCSI target capability (with or without ZFS inclusive 
> >> thereto)
> >> has anyone attempted to connect to such an alleged Solaris iSCSI target
> >> successfully from MacOS using this initiator:
> >
> > why are you wasting all the three-dollar words here, when the real
> > answer is "check it for yourself"
>
> Ah, the concept of three-dollar words! It is particularly instructive that
> for me these words are not three-dollars words. Why, I get them at cost, as
> I have two parents "in the business" (they each hold a Masters Degree in
> Education). Thus, with all my words coming to me at cost, I use only the
> best words.
>
> Didn't you ever know someone that drove a really nice car, that had a Father
> that was a mechanic? It's kind of the same sort of deal here.

No, that would be equivalent to someone who was a mechanic in the
motor pool asking about how to fix a transmission.  you have PARs,
read them

> And why would I repeat the process of analysis and evaluation when I could
> simply ask someone else for their opinion concerning its functionality and
> capability?

because you are paid to already know

> Granted, I am Jewish, and fully aware of the fact that if three Jews
> answered me, I'd get at least 5 opinions, but, I am willing to take the
> risk!

what does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

> Unless...you implying that there are actual purposeful prevaricators on this
> list sir, and that I might otherwise be willfully misled?

this IS opensolaris-dicsuss...

> My, my, we have progressed far beyond the technical aspects of concerning
> nobody and wanting to help.
>
> >
> >
> >> http://www.studionetworksolutions.com/products/product_detail.php?t=more&pi
> >> =11
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >> (310) 358-0202
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