Hi andrewk9,

> Comments inline: 

Ditto (as they should be ;-) ) with snippages...

> No software is perfect, as I think you acknowledge. I totally that it is up 
> to the community to engage itself in the process.

I remember a piece of software 25 years ago called "The Last One". I think that 
its successor might have been called 
"The Next One" ;-) Indeed no software can be "perfect"; which always makes me 
nervous about the stuff running embedded 
code in "life-support" systems ;-)

The OpenSolaris community is growing, and growing in a well-ordered manner, 
thanks mainly to the colossal efforts of Jim 
Grisanzio; who deserves great and continuing praise. Engagement will always be 
hit-and-miss; but if the infrastructure 
is there, easily accessible, and thus easy to latch on to; then the community 
will continue to engage and grow.

> Apologies, I meant to say that, because OpenSolaris was originally derived 
> from Solaris, that this naturally means that it is focussed on large business 
> users. As you say, it is not Sun's problem if consumers don't like it.

Yup. Sun must make some money from somewhere; and this will not be from 
OpenSolaris; it will be from large Solaris 
Support contracts (and stuff like training, and clever marketing campaigns). On 
a single-consumer level, Sun will make 
no dosh; but a single OpenSolaris  developer writing a driver for a new piece 
of hardware which in the future could make 
its way into the official HCL, and into Solaris, could make "money" for Sun, 
and achieve some notable Kudos for the 
developer. Masayuki Muryama has achieved this to great extent, and to the great 
relief of many people using unsupported 
network hardware.

> I disagree completely. For technical users the command line is probably their 
> tool of choice, but for non-technical users a GUI equivalent is generally 
> required.

OK, we will have to agree to disagree on this point. But my premise was that 
anyone who is being paid to administer a 
system needs to understand the administration tasks at at least the command 
line level, if not lower. Obviously this 
does not include singleton consumers who will cry initially, then reinstall if 
the working environment that they 
"administer" ceases to work.

Regards... Sean.
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