On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 01:31 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > My hope is that Indiana will make quick work of > > catching up with Linux distributions like Ubuntu and > > can then set it's sights on a real desktop solution. > > I think Mac OS/X is the only existing real > > replacement for Windows for use by the general > > public. > > I just came back from an excursion to Ubuntu 7.something (Dapper > Drake) because I was trying to figure out that gethrtime() problem for > Dennis, and, well, it looks and behaves exactly like Nevada. That's > understandable since they both use GNOME, but what is not > understandable to me is, what's all the fuss? They're almost identical > in usability. > > A couple of memorabilia I brought back from that trip: > > a) on Ubuntu, my laptop's sound worked (the driver for the ChipSet > hasn't been ported from sparc to i86pc on Solaris yet)
Have tried OpenSound? > b) the color scheme was obviously different than Nevada, but else they > were the same! > > c) Ubuntu had a slightly newer GNOME, but I don't think that's an > issue because Nevada is work in progress Hmm, well, both of them use GNOME - 7.04 uses GNOME 2.18.0 and Solaris uses 2.18.2 - which is actually a new version. > d) networking was *unreliable* in Ubuntu: the eth0 and eth1 were > switched; the ifconfig command was obviously a homegrown attempt, > diverging from the standard `ifconfig` command in System V Try using wireless with wpa - experience the joyful pain. > e) Ubuntu kept trying to do DHCP, no matter what, in the most > braindead way possible > > f) the GUI to configure networking did not work under Ubuntu - quite > simply, there was no effect! One could say the same thing about the Network tool in Solaris right now; activate/deactive don't work, for instance. > One could tell where Nevada is lagging behind, and that is polishing > the look (lots of icons are still missing in the start menu, something > Ubuntu had), and audio effects, something that Ubuntu had polished but > Nevada still has some polishing work to do. But, Nevada shone through > again in terms of consistency (`ifconfig`) and ease of use, provided > one was on equal footing on both systems (and I am definitely no > stranger to Linux). > > All in all, I don't see what the fuss about Ubuntu is. On the surface > it's almost identical to Nevada? And it took me a while to figure out > what their "universe" and "multiverse" thing is... and apt-get still > wouldn't pull and/or find the "tcsh" package. Pretty annoying for > something so hyped up as `apt-get` and `dpkg`. Shuttleworth is the Steve Jobs of the Linux world - I'm sure if I had a few bottles of wine under my belt, I too could bounce around hyping Solaris to the sky and beyond. Matthew _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
