Hi Matthew,

V út, 07. 08. 2007 v 14:40, Kaiwai Gardiner píše:
> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 08:25 +0200, Milan Jurik wrote:
> > 
> > But this happend, the responsible engineer took related RFE and you
> > could see that on bugs.opensolaris.org. I agree with one thing - bugster
> > is very good tool, but its public interface is not very useful in case
> > that you want to monitor some CR.
> 
> Hence my leaning towards Bugzilla - people give it a hard time but it is
> easy to keep track of favourite bugs etc. etc. Much more
> 'collabortative' - you can actually update submissions etc. etc. all of
> that should be available on the bugster.
> 

It is in bugster, in very good way (in my oppinion). But bugster is not
open and that is the root cause of many issues, missing open CR
management.

> > > > And I don't know why File Events Notification API - PSARC/2007/027 is
> > > > not public. You can see who made the putback - ask him, maybe he is not
> > > > reading this list.
> > > 
> > > Its very hard to know when there is no name attached to the put back as
> > > far as I see.
> > > 
> > 
> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/onnv-notify/2007-April/007227.html
> > 
> > -> 6381975 solaris need centrino ipw3945 wifi support
> > 
> > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6381975
> 
> But these are hardly 'visable' forms of communication; its like saying,
> 'yes, there is documentation, read the source code'.
> 

I said it is possible, you must be more active.

> > -> now you know ;-)
> > 
> > And I think that Brian is very active even in community to help people
> > with this driver :-) He just worked hard to release something and even
> > at that time he was ready to communicate with those who wrote e-mail to
> > him (I know it :-) ).
> 
> Then maybe its the opensolaris.org website maintainers not willing to
> create some buzz about what is being worked on.
> 

It is not osol.org website maintainers responsibility.

> > That's typically PSARC and sometimes updates in Bugster. E.g. manpage is
> > written after driver completition. Which docu?
> 
> The SPARC information before putting the code in. When it appears on the
> ONNV change, I want to be able to read about it straight away.
> 

Push on exact PSARC authors.

> 
> Communication doesn't have to go overboard, but a quick, 'this what
> we're doing now' would suffice - atleast show there is some pulse in the
> body - I go past parts of opensolaris.org and wonder if any of the
> people involved are alive because its so quiet.
> 

I think there is good pulse in the body and you can see that in many
projects on osol.org, you should monitor more than just
opensolaris-discuss list.

This is open source world, nobody should dictate to others on which
level they are communicating. I came from open source world and know the
difference.

Best regards,

Milan

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