> > Users might help Open Solaris by giving a feed > back, > > by telling them what they want. That would be > great > > help, and beyond that, if you want users to roll > up > > their sleeves and help out, no, that is not going > to > > happen. That can never happen. Yes, the user wants > it > > all delivered on a sliver platter, they wouldn't > go > > anywhere near the kitchen, let alone do the > dishes. > > Users are guests. > > Is that so? > Then perhaps you'd care to explain why it was and > still is commonly accepted practice for Linux, that > if users want something, they have to help out?
I don't know about Linux, nor have I ever visited a Linux user group. How old is open source ? Ten, twenty years ? What could have evolved in ten or twenty years ? Linux has a commonly accepted practice, in practice for the last twenty years max ? And is it enough time to determine that it is the optimal practice ? You never know.... I wouldn't follow Linux's open source practices as if it were an established norm. Sorry. > > Perhaps you'd also be so kind to explain why is it OK > to discriminate OpenSolaris in this way? I am not discriminating open solaris, I am not comparing Open Solaris with any open source group, for I haven't ever been to any. I write what comes to mind. That is it. > > Is it because a significant portion of the > *voluntary* developers are also Sun engineers? > > Sun doesn't *owe* anybody anything as far as > OpenSolaris goes, nor is it Sun's responsibility to > lift a finger as far as OpenSolaris is concerned. No, I think it is wrong to make such an observation. Sun has open sourced solaris, but it assumes a broad responsibility over open solaris, it does everything it can to further the cause of open solaris, Why would it host open solaris as an integral part of Sun Tech Days or Java One ? It is doing more than just lifting a finer. Sun mothers open solaris, however open solaris might appear in conflict with the revenue driven Solaris. > > OpenSolaris is not a paid-for product, it's an effort > made up of enthusiasts and volunteers, and if you > believe that these people, which invest their free > time and resources into this project owe you > something, I think you might find yourself sorely > dissapointed. If you are enthusiastic or a volunteer, you must be enthusiastic and volulnteer with all your heart, volunteer joyously. You can't say you volunteer and grumble and say, this far and no further, or say I volunteered and what is the use ? For someone with such a mindset, there are plenty of opportunities that are monetarily rewarding. This happens to be a movement (which I still don't understand entirely) that seems to work on participatory drives, not on monetary motives. > > If you want a paid-for product where you get to say > what you want and what should and should not be done, > then by all means, Solaris 10 with a paid-for support > contract and Sun Microsystems stand at your disposal. This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
