On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Nico Sabbi wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Nico Sabbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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This is opensolaris. If you like it, do it!
Jörg
you explained yourself that doing it is one thing, integrating
it in Opensolaris is a totally different thing that only the members
of some board can decide. Since the ports of eclipse and kde
exist already now, it's up to the board to decide what to do with them
Not quite. For one thing, what you're asking for is integration of KDE and
Eclipse into a specific distribution, probably Solaris Express. That's
different from integrating into "OpenSolaris". Are KDE and Eclipse part of
the Linux kernel ? Are they part of the GNU compiler collection ? Are they
integrated with GNU libc ? Ah, and yes, it'd really be a great idea to
actually integrate them both into GNOME ...
You're asking for co-packaging, what in terms of OpenSolaris is called a
"WAD" - the term would roughly describe what's commonly referred to as
"distribution".
That's a collection of various so-called, again in terms of OpenSolaris,
consolidations, which are e.g. X11, ON, install, Java - which are not
fully self-contained, but also not tightly coupled. There's no need to
create a new build of the X server each time a new build of the ON kernel
components go out. Same would be true for e.g. Eclipse and KDE.
The mythical entity you refer to as "The board" will not object to a
specific consolidation's idea of what code/feature/subsystem should go in
or out as long as there are no side effects beyond that consolidation.
Adding new software packages therefore needs talking to the specific
people who work on the "umbrella thing" - and that's the consolidation,
the community that'd embrace your project(s).
Trying to integrate a new manual page, would you talk to a kernel engineer
or a documentations maintainer ?
I guess you get the idea now. Assuming you have a piece of code, a
specific item of software you want to have distributed as part of some
OpenSolaris distribution, you would, in order:
- ask the maintainer(s) of that distribution how that'd work
- ask people from a related community what'd be needed
and only _then_ start worrying about what strange questions they might
come up with.
What Joerg was talking about was code integration into the ON
consolidation (kernel/libraries/UN*X utils), that currently uses what's
called a "sponsorship" model where you dump your code onto some Sun person
for them to turn the internal wheels and get stuff in. If you search the
archives for e.g. "ksh93" you'll see that such integration discussions can
take a very long time.
But that's far from what you want. You're not developing a kernel driver,
a UN*X utility of a fix/enhancement to libc. You're "simply" requesting
(some) (Open)Solaris distributions to include additional software.
Which might have its own pitfalls, ok. Have you tried talking to talk to
any distribution maintainer ?
FrankH.
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