Thank you both for your comments.
Specifically for the eyes and ears of all of the folks on the 
OpenSolaris software team, I can't thank you enough for the outstanding 
work you've done to date on this program. The creativity, speed and 
focus you've all demonstrated is visible to all - and is worthy of 
unyielding respect. You certainly have mine.
Thanks,
Rich

Tim Foster wrote:
> +1 This says it all for me. I'm also getting pretty sick of the rather
> negative atmosphere around the mailing lists at the moment.
>
> We just shipped a major milestone, and people are doing nothing but
> bitching about it.  I'm glad the responsible project team are a pretty
> thick skinned bunch, because I'd be feeling rather unappreciated if I
> were them, based on many of these mails... (perhaps they're all still
> recovering from the party)
>
> Can we please start feeling proud of our achievements ? Please ? Beers
> all round!
>       
>       cheers,
>               tim
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 13:16 -0400, Ian Murdock wrote:
>   
>> All right.
>>
>> I don't even know where to begin.
>>
>> Does it matter at all that the feedback outside this community to
>> the idea that we're producing a binary distribution called
>> OpenSolaris has almost universally been: "Duh. What took so long?"
>>
>> Does it matter that the initial feedback on the Developer Preview
>> has been overwhelming positive, that so many more people in the
>> world are talking about OpenSolaris--that the approach is WORKING?
>>
>> Does it matter that we literally MOVED MOUNTAINS to get to where we
>> are today.. To create this community in the first place, to free the IP,
>> to reprioritize, to get the vast resources Sun dedicates to Solaris
>> focused on doing their work in the open, to evangelize within the
>> company the importance of continuing to open up such that those outside
>> of Sun can participate in future development on an equal footing?
>>
>> Does it matter that we are inviting the community to participate
>> in a discussion about how to enable broader use of the OpenSolaris
>> brand, to build out a ecosystem of distributions that are compatible,
>> to solve the Linux fragmentation problem before it even becomes
>> a problem? What other company has done this? Shouldn't we be applauded
>> for being willing to take this step--or is this just another
>> case of Sun being held to a much different standard than everyone else?
>>
>> And, yes, does it matter that Sun holds a large stake in this
>> community, PAYS the vast majority of people here for the privilege of
>> being able to spend their days doing what they love, gets flamed
>> repeatedly by many of those same people for our trouble, and in return
>> thinks it reasonable to have _some_ say in how the community functions?
>> Or is that a sign of evil intentions? Do we have to completely
>> abdicate to "be community"? Isn't that taxation without representation?
>>
>> Or is all that insignificant, irrelevant? We haven't given everything,
>> so therefore we've given nothing?
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Not in the least bit.
>>
>> -ian
>>     
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