On 06/11/2007, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn Walker writes: > > #3 I don't agree with at all. As the trademark holder, Sun should get > > to decide whether or not a core distribution exists. > > They can certainly do that. If they do so without taking into account > the wishes of the community, they can do that too, though the results > may be tragic. > > Regardless of what they do here, the OGB (and not Sun!) gets to decide > matters of day-to-day operation within the community, and the > community itself must decide community-wide matters. > > If you honestly feel that Sun gets to make choices on behalf of (and > in the name of) the community, and thus we shouldn't even be > discussing matters that are of community-wide interest, then I think > we're done here. There's no common ground.
When it comes to the trademark; I don't feel those are "on behalf of the community" because that implies ownership by the community. This is the one point I strongly and resolutely disagree with on others. It's one thing to give others the ability to share their input with Sun; it's another for the community to have *control* over the final decision. Having a voice and having control are separate. At my place of employment, my input is always listened to, so I am part of the process, but I do not get to make the final decision. I look at it the same way with the trademark. > > In fact, I'd argue, without their ability to make that decision, what > > financial incentive do they have to support it? > > At least in the context of the OGB, I don't think it matters. Why Sun > chose to give up the source code and the control to an outside body, > and how it plans to make money of the deal, are Sun's own issues. I > don't think we can or should debate them here. As long as Sun is the source of continued, significant financial support that allows this community and its support infrastructure to exist; I think it is impossible to ignore it. Sun deserves a certain consideration for their financial support and their decision to open the source code which formed the nucleus around which our community is based. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "We don't have enough parallel universes to allow all uses of all junction types--in the absence of quantum computing the combinatorics are not in our favor..." --Larry Wall _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
