Octave Orgeron wrote:
> One of the things that does kinda concern me here is that by just
> jumping on the GNU bandwagon and hoping for a smooth ride is a bit
> backward. I think most people who have worked on multiple OS's know
> that the GNU tools do have their issues and conflicts. Ultimately, if
> Sun wants to improve those tools, then great. However, if the hope is
> that the GNU toolset will attract users and developers.. I think that
> idea maybe a little flawed. If the idea is to be on par with Linux
> and hope that people will switch because of all the GNUness and
> Solaris specific features.. I'm not sure that's the best path.
> Definitely it helps.. but I don't think it'll magically cause a mass
> migration. What would be nice is some leadership in standards that
> bridges the gaps and makes Solaris the *best* platform for
> enterprises and for professional desktop/workstation users. If the
> idea is to go after the real desktop users across the globe.. then
> Sun should merge with Apple and learn what everyday people really
> need and expect.
> 
> As things stand, continuing to go after the Linux user base is like
> trying to convert the religion of people.. pointless and a waste of
> effort. Apple understands that the real attraction for everyday users
> is differentiation and quality. OpenSolaris has come a long way and
> it's good that we are trying to accomodate user expectations.
> However, to fall into the trap of "we have to be like Linux to
> survive" is a dangerous and almost "end game" way of looking at the
> future. Where is the leadership? I think we all want the best
> platform to be OpenSolaris.
> 
> Would it not make more sense to work with the different organizations
> and development teams to build a unified cross-platform toolset? I
> think enough consolidation has happened in the UNIX and UNIX-like
> market for people to come together and build something we can all be
> happy with. Let people choose their kernel and native toolset.. but
> atleast have a common toolset across all the platforms for the
> basics:) It's happening in other areas, such as Xorg.. minus the fact
> that MacOSX has a better GUI and doesn't need X11.

Hear, hear. We need to offer much more than just parity with Linux.

If the GNU utilities are as unstable (from an interface perspective) as 
has been suggested on this thread, maybe we should seriously consider 
one of the hybrid approaches that has been suggested here.

        Scott

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